Birsds of feather flock together. Under the "idiot" motto.
--- On Wed, 9/3/08, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [epistemology 9371] Re: a fierce tale told by an idiot > To: "Epistemology" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 9:11 PM > Thank you. > > On Sep 3, 1:57 am, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Installment no 2. After thinking over whether to stay > linear or go beyond. > > I'm going beyond. Plato suffers from nominalism. > If an idea can be captured in a word, it's > > usually made into a noun which usuallly names an > object which then has to be given a location > > somewhere. It's obvious that ideas don't grow > on trees and are not found in rabbit holes or > > squirrel's nests, so it must be somewhere else. > Since I don't speak ancient gReek or am in > > touch with the Greek zeitgeist It is possible it is > not Plato but translation into a modern > > language with those faults that distort such things. > Photons are an example. If they were > > actually photons, light particles, the sky should be > lit up like a Neon shopping site. It is > > not, so a better explanation would be that whatever it > is, a radiation, changes into light when > > hitting earth surrounding energy fields. > > Occultism ditto. It talks about the Akashic records, > name first coined by Madame Blavatsky. > > There are no angels with sharpened feathers writing it > all down on papyrus or bleached > > sheepskins. NO factories in heaven. Heaven would need > extra buildings pretty fast, not to > > ignore the legions of clerics to read them. Besides I > doubt heaven is interested in trivia > > collecting. If it rains there's no little pages > with placards running around with" "this is > > rain" printed on them. Rain is its own > information you readily interpret, eh! > > So let's assume information all sentient life is > equipped to interpret to advantage of its own > > survival and comfort. A rabbit found grazing alongside > a very noisy highway ran away when > > somebody trod on the grass nearby. Obviously rabbit > knew the noise was not going to kill it but > > as to humans it was not so sure. > > Get the message? It applies to many other things, even > cosmology where we should not plaster > > our silly parochial ideas across the sky and complain > when it turns out not to be the case. I > > have been visited by what one may call an angel. A > polycoloured sphere, size varies. Ancient > > and up to medieval ideas have it they can shape > change, something Sheldrake is into as > > morphogenesis and calls it science, haha. That > happened at Lourdes when the Virgin Mary visited > > those children. Other people saw flying saucers. My > daughter just visited and told me her > > oldest daughter is attended by invisible to daughter > monsters who do a brilliant job of > > manipulating mummy and Daddy, which sound like an > intelligent solution to me. My own son when > > he passed through the nightmare stage, which is when > children discover is not as nice a place > > as they believed before, etc blahh. WE discussed the > matter and invented a lioness who slept > > under the bed during the day and came out and, like > the cat, to sleep at his feet on top of the > > bed. No more nightmares. I never found out where she > went when he grew up some more and did not > > need her any more. Grand daughters monsters have all > manner of hiding places but they always > > know when she needs them. Daughter's hubby got a > new job in Wellington and we're both curious > > where the monsters are going to hide now. 2nd grad > daughter has not yet decided to join the > > human race and seems like to be one of our families > later developers. I very much doubt she's > > mentally deficient, just does not happen in our > family. Besides her beady little eyes are flat > > out watching everything. Speaking personally I never > had any invisible friends, did not need > > the. I knew quite well how to play off one addled > adult against another. > > > > Since mythology was much into process > thinking about actions but pre-alphabetic writing in > > eidolon, images that included personification its > quite possible Plato used the Greek language > > in that way. Indian godly pantheons and Egypt have > plenty examples of the kind. It's quite > > possible to have very sophisticated thinking alongside > crude portrayal. I don't know what Plato > > thought. But I'm quite sure modern translations > don't have a clue about all that. This last > > sentence is an example of nominalisation as it > ain't the translation but the translators that > > make the mistake, but no great matter. Always think > into the blank space below the fine print > > on the bottom line. > > > > Another time I'll talk about ARS memoriae, arts of > Memory antiquity used. Remind me if I don't. > > They're used to stuff untold masses of data > between the ears, needed when you are a story > > teller, poets, etc. Look up Dame Frances Yates on > "the art of Memory, 1966 she opened up this > > can of worms, and Giardano Bruno, Ramon Lully, John > Dee and there's now more stuff on internet, > > quite recent, getting pop, about time. It'll help > you with Arica. I've got quite a list of > > them. see > http://www.synaptic.ch/infoliths/textes/arsmem.htm I > happened across. > > > > adrian > > > > > > > > ornamentalmind wrote: > > > adrian, perhaps you would be willing to share a > short overview of your > > > views re: Plato?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
