I suppose the subject handle still fits?? The promised letter to a moderator.
I also wonder whether Archytas found that promised referennce to the brain?
She fell into the leadership trap. Once you've collected enough followers or 
believers you're 
stuck in keeping them happy. Otherwise they peeve and walk off in search of 
another. I cannot 
imagine anything more like hell than untold pale imitations of one's fantasies. 
That offers an 
alternative definition of hell. They actually like it there as they get what 
they desire. 
Otherwise, why stay?

Paste>

DEAR Maria, ARE you also the owner of the episteme group?

I unsubscribed. I'm not interested in fitting into your intellectual comfort 
zone, since 
there's no such thing as an unbiased person. IF you so much as bothered to 
check out the points 
I make you'll find I'm right. As for 'Grounded' knowledge is mostly ungrounded 
in its 
foundations. It is made up from Freudian projections grounded in intuition

""Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs 
more of it than 
he already has. Rene Descartes. You won't find that in a UNI textbook.
""Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to Authority is not using his 
intelligence, he 
is just using his memory. Leonardo da Vinci
"

I find your opinion about me having opinions Hilarious. IF you choose to stay 
within standard 
science, I am not interested. I am into the new paradigm, which is still 
peddled in material 
hypothesis terms. You obviously have not researched it the way I have. My 
historical compass 
reaches back into the stone ages. My IQ is 215 give or take 40 points of fuzz. 
My papers 
usually range between 5 and 8 K, and I don't intend to do so in a list. I have 
several genius 
friends who don't go in for Collecting kudos. You obviously have not read 
Feuerabend. I started 
school at age three and at one stage taught Rapid reading to 160 Profs and 
lecturers at a 
University. They were all quite satisfied, except medical staff, funny that. I 
collect methods, 
procedures and theories.

PROOF, as originated by Euclid, consists solely in order to ensure that the 
data or addenda 
adduced fit in with the known. Since you don't know me from a bar of soap, I 
can only LAUGH. 
But then the less well we know a person the easier to stereotype. POlitics 
makes great use of it.

Proof ONELOok: "any factual evidence that helps to establish the truth of 
something." And what 
is truth", said Pilate.
FACT is cognate to Feitico, meaning a fetish, and indeed to make a fetish of 
THE fact is funny 
  because a fact is a PRODUCT of a theory and not before. Before that it is 
merely a percept, 
idea - from eidolon, whence also idol - or an observable, UNDER THE material 
HYPO-thesis, which 
is not provable. T.S. KUhN, [from memory] "in the absence of a theory or a 
candidate for a 
theory ALL of the data are equally significant." ( or: me> insignificant), they 
are mere data. 
This shows up well in, say, the case of the Redshift since being called in 
doubt, now having 
several candidates. THE same holds for most if not all other science's keyterms.
THEORY derives from from Gk. theoria "contemplation, speculation, a looking at, 
things looked 
at," from theorein "to consider, speculate, look at," from theoros "spectator," 
from thea "a 
view" + horan "to see." I don't hold with post Education ACT, 1850 AD dogma.

As for your advice not to rely on dictionaries. I used to crit dictionaries and 
know quite well 
  how they are compiled by humans who are error prone. Samuel Johnson being 
questioned about 
his DictorionARY: "sHEER, BLOODY IGNORANCE, mADAM."  I pick my authorities very 
carefully. In 
effect they are not MY authorities. The list of much derided vindicated 
geniuses is quite long.

""Every great and deep difficulty bears in itself its own solution. It forces 
us to change our 
thinking in order to find it." Niels Bohr; which needs intuition.
""Every sentence I utter must be understood not as an affirmation, but as a 
question." Niels Bohr.
CONTRARIWISE "the late Professor C. L. Kervran, stated the problem: “..the word 
“matter” has no 
exact meaning; we just do not know what matter is; we do not know what a proton 
or electron is 
made of; the word only serves to cloak our ignorance. Matter has not been 
proved to come from 
energy.”  cf Deepak chopra  & April Crawford. cf 
http://www.rexresearch.com/1index.htm
In one sense matter is a form of energy, which is what our senses pick up.
Scrodinger called them 'schaumkommen', translated as appearances, although  
mental foam is better.
HINTZ PAGELS  "We live in the wake of a physics revolution comparable to the 
Copernican 
demolition of the anthropocentric world -- a revolution which began with the 
invention of the 
theory of relativity and quantum mechanics in the first decades of this century 
and which has 
left most educated people behind"
EHHH!!!!
""The basic rule of system theory is that, if you want to understand some 
phenomenon or 
appearance, you must consider that phenomenon within he context of all 
completed circuits which 
are relevant to it. Gregory Bateson "A Sacred Unity", Harper 1991
"We must assume behind this force [in the atom] the existence of a conscious 
and intelligent 
mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter." -- Max Planck, accepting the 
Nobel Prize for 
Physics, 1918.
"Discussions with Einstein on Epistemological Problems in Atomic Physics  N B
"..however far the phenomena transcend the scope of classical physical 
explanation, the account 
of all evidence must be expressed in classical terms." Nils Bohr  The same 
holds for the 
Russians.  I look up dictionaries in order to conform with that, it being the 
prevailing trope.

In the context of THE material hypothesis, where my arguments being off the 
standard square, I 
find from Internet Enc>
""Transcendental arguments are partly non-empirical, often anti-skeptical 
arguments focusing on 
necessary enabling conditions either of coherent experience or the possession 
or employment of 
some kind of knowledge or cognitive ability, where the opponent is not in a 
position to 
question the fact of this experience, knowledge, or cognitive ability, and 
where the revealed 
preconditions include what the opponent questions. Such....
  It should not, I dare say, surprise you NOT to find much on the faults and 
weaknesses of proof


ETY: proof Look up proof at Dictionary.com
     c.1225, preove, "evidence to establish the fact of (something)," from 
O.Fr. prueve 
(c.1224), from L.L. proba "a proof," a back-formation from L. probare "to 
prove" (see prove). 
Meaning "act of testing or making trial of anything" is from c.1380. Sense of 
"tested power" 
led to fireproof (early 17c.), waterproof (1736), foolproof (1902), etc. 
Meaning "standard of 
strength of distilled liquor" is from 1705. Typographical sense of "trial 
impression to test 
type" is from 1600; proofreader first attested 1832. Numismatic sense of "coin 
struck to test a 
die" is from 1762; now mostly in ref. to coins struck from highly polished 
dies, mainly for 
collectors.
It actually derives from coining where one can still buy proof sets of new 
coinage from mints.

I think that's long enough.

adrian, Who will now go wash the bad taste out of his mouth.





nominal9 wrote:
> Okay ADRF:
> My own background is more in the "humanities" and "classical
>


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