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2. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] ultrasonic inspection issues
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4. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] SB32
5. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] SB32
6. [COUPERS-TECH] Don't you just LOVE the smell of avgas in the
morning?...
7. [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
8. RE: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
9. Re: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
10. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
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From: "Hartmut Beil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "COUPERS TECH" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Hartmut Beil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
The two Ercoupes , I was involved in rebuilding/repairing had both header
tank problems.
Mine has a fairly new tank in it, that got replaced in 1994, but I found a
crack on the tanks bottom jut 8 years later.
Stop drilled it and sealed it with that 2 component gue that my FBO
friend
gave me. That patch works beautifully.
My brothers plane had always fuel small in the cockpit until my brother
ordered the removal of the header tank. He took that thing apart with his
A&P and found nothing. They disassembled the tank then, drilled out all
200
or so rivets and carefully cleaned the parts.
Then finally, the mechanic found a pinhole in the piece opposite to the
fuel
line fittings. The fix was to fill that hole with a rivet.
You can imagine how they both cursed that they did not see the hole before
taking that thing apart.
Last but not least, I had several occasions where the fuel lines from the
mains into the cockpit were not completely sealing.
Using red Avgas back then was a good visual leak finding tool.
We had a leaky primer too, but that was just a problem when priming, your
hand was moistened with gasoline then. Real pilot stuff.
However. All is relatively easy to fix compared to the problem of an
overheating engine.
Hartmut
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Well, OK, my plane has always smelled of fuel when I pop it open after
sitting with the canopy cover on it. During my last annual they
discovered a drip from the cowl tank onto my radio, necessitating the
purchase of a new radio. They sealed the tank, and said all was well. My
primer pump has leaked from time to time, also, but I haven't noticed it
doing that lately.
What are the usual culprits for the smell of gas in the cockpit? I'm
thinking the primer pump is the No. 1 suspect, then maybe weeping tanks
or connections, much of which is inside the plane? I would be curious to
know if anyone out there has cured the bad smell problem and how.
Thanks much! Oh, BTW, the plane is now flying great after my little
wheat
field incident.
Larry
N99340
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] ultrasonic inspection issues
In a message dated 6/6/2006 9:05:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am having the ultrasonic inspection done next week. I remember reading
that some people had a problem with a few rivets that gave a bad reading
even
though they were good. Something had to be done to those rivets to get a
good
reading. What was it? It was something like cleaning the tops or
something
like that. I want to make sure the person inspecting my Coupe is aware
if
this potential issue.
Glen,
The 5/32 rivets have a circle ridge on the bucked tail from the shop
set at manufacture. If there is some bad readings have this ridge
filed off to get better contact and have more copulant put on the
probe. There is a minimum length to the rivets so don't get carried
away with the filing.
John
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Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Technical Discussion
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John
Up here we don't have much of a bug problem, so we use the pineapple
juice,
mixed with vodka, for medicinal applications.
Glen
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3. [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
4. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
5. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
6. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
7. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
8. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
9. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Wing tip fairing for Nav+Strobe light needed
10. [COUPERS-TECH] Skin wrinkles
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12. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Skin wrinkles
13. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
14. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
15. [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
16. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
17. [COUPERS-TECH] Re:Wrinkles
18. RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
19. RE: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE, WD-40
20. [COUPERS-TECH] ultrasonic inspection issues
21. Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
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Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Technical Discussion
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In a message dated 6/6/06 3:00:37 AM, [email protected] writes:
Service bulletins
John and all..
Re: SB 32
Happy to report two more good tests. Both Tom Horacek of Grafton, WV
and I had our coupes inspected per SB 32 by TEI Analytical Services of
Washington, PA and both passed with flying colors. The inspections took
place at
Strope Aircraft Maintenance at Waynesburg, PA during the aircraft's
annual
inspections. Since the inspector, Rodney Jennings of TEI, was able to do
both on the
same day, we held the bill down to $550 apiece.
A couple of peculiarities. My coupe, N99906, was produced in July of
1946. It is serial number 2529. Tom's, N2678H, is serial number
3303..probably
produced that fall. The fuel tanks are different: Tom's has an
indentation
at the rear corner which permitted the inspector to reach the last rivet
that
was "excused" by the revision. My tank does not have that indentation, so
that rivet was omitted.
Also: I have Cleveland Brakes, Tom has Goodyear. The brake line on
mine runs to the aft of the center spar, Tom's runs in front. As a
result,
there were 8 rivets on mine that were difficult if not impossible to
reach. Tom's
aircraft posed no problem on that count.
Otherwise, we were good to go. I think I knew it all the time. This SB
is BS.
Jim S.
Jim Slade
1 304 292 2466
1 304 685 9386 (Cell)
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To: Ercoupe List <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe in the news........
Pacific Aerosystem Announces Disabled Pilot Option On
Sky Arrow LSA Sidestick Controls Rudder Inputs; Can Be
Removed For
Conventional Ops
One reason the 40s-vintage Ercoupe remains a popular
aircraft
today -- especially in the sport-pilot category -- is
its lack of
rudder pedals. In addition to making flying simpler
for all pilots,
the rudderless set-up allows disabled pilots, who
don't have use of
their legs and feet, to operate the aircraft.
Pacific Aerosystem Inc. is keeping the needs of
disabled pilots
in mind. On Monday, company representatives told ANN
the company
will now offer its Disabled Pilot Option on its Sky
Arrow 600 light
sport aircraft.
The SLSA-certified Sky Arrow, manufactured by
Iniziative
Industriali Italiane (3I) in Italy, follows the FAA
Part
23-certified Sky Arrow 650 TCNS in offering an option
for pilots
who cannot operate rudder pedals with their feet.
Unlike an Ercoupe -- in which rudder inputs are
connected to the
control wheel, intended to prevent pilots from
cross-controlling
the airplane -- the Sky Arrow setup still gives
disabled pilots
full rudder authority. The system uses a left-side
control stick to
apply yaw input, and also incorporates a throttle
control -- thus
giving pilots with only the use of their hands full
control of the
plane.
The standard right side-stick controls pitch and bank,
and also
has buttons for electric rudder and elevator trim as
well as radio
push to talk. The brake levers are also controlled by
the right
hand, just as on the conventional Sky Arrow.
The first US Sky Arrow
600 with the Disabled Pilot option received its
airworthiness
certificate on May 23, 2006, and the company will use
the plane to
demonstrate those features for prospective buyers.
The left sidestick can be quickly removed for easy
entry. When
it is removed from the plane, the conventional rudder
pedals are
fully operational.
FMI: www.skyarrowusa.com
For the WHOLE story, go to
http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=b12bbb33-95ac-474f-bbb7-29f6eb1fa475
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From: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "COUPERS TECH" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
Admittedly, this is barely technical, but could be of use to many of us.
It is now BUG season here in Florida. The lovebugs and a variety of other
flying insects are everywhere. They cover automobile and truck bodies,
radiators and windows. Airplanes , too are their targets, particularly
when flying over grassy areas such as encountered on landing and takeoff
.
I'm sure that you who operate from turf fields have this problem in
spades, and not only in Florida. Most of the dead bugs on your Coupe can
be removed by washing with detergent and water immediately after flight.
I
use the small , nylon mesh enclosed scrub pads sold in auto parts stores.
Unfortunately, they aren't 100 % effective since the nylon mesh is too
open ,i.e., not close -weaved. They will remove some of the bugs, but not
all. The remaining ones have solidified into their own corpses into
epoxy-like blemishes which are very difficult to remove. Solution: Home
Depot sells small SPOT-X No Scratch Scrubbing pads @ 97 cents each. They
are white, very close -weave nylon or other synthetic material. They can
be used on porcelain, stainless steel, windows and mirrors. They do NOT
scratch, even when rubbed hard. I cut the pads in 4 pcs, apply a bit of
MEGUALAR Cleaner/Polisher and rub on each individual dead bug. This
removes the bug instantly, and there are no residual scratches - honest!
I haven't tried them on plexiglass windows, and do not intend to. Maybe
one of you has a scrap piece of it and can try the pads on it ?
Don Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Sydney Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Reply-To: Sydney Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
I use warm water and a micro fiber cloth. Works great, especially if
you clean the bugs off right after you land. I would recommend staying
away from detergent, since the chemicals (phosphates, etc.) may corrode
the aluminum.
Syd
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Admittedly, this is barely technical, but could be of use to many of
us. It is now BUG season here in Florida. The lovebugs and a variety
of other flying insects are everywhere. They cover automobile and
truck bodies, radiators and windows. Airplanes , too are their
targets, particularly when flying over grassy areas such as
encountered on landing and takeoff . I'm sure that you who operate
from turf fields have this problem in spades, and not only in Florida.
Most of the dead bugs on your Coupe can be removed by washing with
detergent and water immediately after flight. I use the small , nylon
mesh enclosed scrub pads sold in auto parts stores. Unfortunately,
they aren't 100 % effective since the nylon mesh is too open ,i.e.,
not close -weaved. They will remove some of the bugs, but not all. The
remaining ones have solidified into their own corpses into epoxy-like
blemishes which are very difficult to remove. Solution: Home Depot
sells small SPOT-X No Scratch Scrubbing pads @ 97 cents each. They are
white, very close -weave nylon or other synthetic material. They can
be used on porcelain, stainless steel, windows and mirrors. They do
NOT scratch, even when rubbed hard. I cut the pads in 4 pcs, apply a
bit of MEGUALAR Cleaner/Polisher and rub on each individual dead bug.
This removes the bug instantly, and there are no residual scratches -
honest! I haven't tried them on plexiglass windows, and do not intend
to. Maybe one of you has a scrap piece of it and can try the pads on it
?
Don Bowen
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From: "Wood, Percy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "COUPERS TECH" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Wood, Percy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
Last time I was in Florida, some of them 6-legged jobbies were so big
they should have been sporting "N" numbers...
Lemon Pledge and a soft cloth worked well when I was back in Oregon,
though.
Percy in NM, USA
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From: Sydney Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:35 AM
Cc: COUPERS TECH
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
I use warm water and a micro fiber cloth.
Syd
DONALD BOWEN wrote:
Admittedly, this is barely technical, but could be of use to
many of us.
It is now BUG season here in Florida.
Don Bowen
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From: John Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: COUPERS TECH <[email protected]>
Reply-To: John Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
At 11:35 AM 6/6/2006, Sydney Cohen wrote:
I would recommend staying away from detergent, since the chemicals
(phosphates, etc.) may corrode the aluminum.
Pineapple juice contains an enzyme that dissolves the protein
(chitin) that makes the bugs so hard to remove...
(IIRC....)
John Cooper, A&P
Skyport Services
PO Box 249
4996 Delaware Tnpk
Rensselaerville, NY 12147
518 797-3064
Fax 518 797-3865
www.skyportservices.net
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From: "Roy Stubbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"COUPERS TECH"
<[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Roy Stubbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
One thing I do as a preventative pre-flight measure here is Georgia is
to run a Pledge coated paper towel across the leading edges of the
wings. It makes it somewhat easier to remove the bugs post-flight.
Roy
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From: DONALD BOWEN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:26 AM
To: COUPERS TECH
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
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any advice in this forum.]----
Admittedly, this is barely technical, but could be of use to many of us.
It is now BUG season here in Florida. The lovebugs and a variety of
other flying insects are everywhere. They cover automobile and truck
bodies, radiators and windows. Airplanes , too are their targets,
particularly when flying over grassy areas such as encountered on
landing and takeoff . I'm sure that you who operate from turf fields
have this problem in spades, and not only in Florida. Most of the dead
bugs on your Coupe can be removed by washing with detergent and water
immediately after flight. I use the small , nylon mesh enclosed scrub
pads sold in auto parts stores. Unfortunately, they aren't 100 %
effective since the nylon mesh is too open ,i.e., not close -weaved.
They will remove some of the bugs, but not all. The remaining ones have
solidified into their own corpses into epoxy-like blemishes which are
very difficult to remove. Solution: Home Depot sells small SPOT-X No
Scratch Scrubbing pads @ 97 cents each. They are white, very close
-weave nylon or other synthetic material. They can be used on porcelain,
stainless steel, windows and mirrors. They do NOT scratch, even when
rubbed hard. I cut the pads in 4 pcs, apply a bit of MEGUALAR
Cleaner/Polisher and rub on each individual dead bug. This removes the
bug instantly, and there are no residual scratches - honest! I haven't
tried them on plexiglass windows, and do not intend to. Maybe one of you
has a scrap piece of it and can try the pads on it ?
Don Bowen
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From: "Jason J Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'COUPERS TECH'" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Jason J Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
What recommendations would you have for us fabric wing folks? I have the
Poly-Fiber fabric with Poly-Tone paint (Paul Anton can correct me if I'm
wrong). I've just been using a dishwashing soap and water with
micro-fiber
cloths. It is a lot of work and I'm somewhat afraid I could be doing
harm.
- Jason
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From: John Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:50 AM
To: COUPERS TECH
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
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At 11:35 AM 6/6/2006, Sydney Cohen wrote:
I would recommend staying away from detergent, since the chemicals
(phosphates, etc.) may corrode the aluminum.
Pineapple juice contains an enzyme that dissolves the protein
(chitin) that makes the bugs so hard to remove...
(IIRC....)
John Cooper, A&P
Skyport Services
PO Box 249
4996 Delaware Tnpk
Rensselaerville, NY 12147
518 797-3064
Fax 518 797-3865
www.skyportservices.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
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Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Wing tip fairing for Nav+Strobe light needed
Hey Ralph: If you have a plastic fairing on your Serial #35, it is
unusual.
All of the Alons I have seen/worked on through serial #238 have had a
metal
piece fastened to the wing tip which mates to the model E grimes light.
It
is
held on with four rivets, and I think you could easily make one.
Lynn Nelsen
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From: Donald L Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: Donald L Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Skin wrinkles
I am looking at an Ercoupe that I am thinking of buying. I have not
touched one in 56 years since I took my first airplane ride at the age of
6. There is some wrinkling of the skin aft of the firewall below and
infront of the wing root. Is it common for these panels to be warpped and
is that a cause for concern.
Donald
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From: "Jason J Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Jason J Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Skin wrinkles
I know the wing root covers are wrinkled.
http://tinyurl.com/fcry7
Look at my right wing root in the above photo. Where it is yellow and
wrinkled is okay. That is the root cover. If where you see wrinkles is
in
the blue area... then you'd want to take a closer look.
- Jason
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From: Donald L Lunsford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 3:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Skin wrinkles
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I am looking at an Ercoupe that I am thinking of buying. I have not
touched one in 56 years since I took my first airplane ride at the age of
6. There is some wrinkling of the skin aft of the firewall below and
infront of the wing root. Is it common for these panels to be warpped and
is that a cause for concern.
Donald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Skin wrinkles
Hey Donald: I suggest you obtain the services of a good mechanic who is
familiar with Ercoupes and have him/her do a pre buy inspection. It will
be money
well spent.
Lynn Nelsen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
Don
In the book I have "Extraordinary uses for ordinary things"
One of the uses for WD40
Is to spray WD40 on the car grille and hood before going for a drive and
most of the critters will slide right off. The few bugs that are left
will
be
easy to wipe off later without damaging your car's finish.
If it works on the car it should work on your wings.
_Jim Scroggins_ (http://jimscroggins.com/)
99714
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From: "Jason J Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Jason J Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
WD40 works great on the fuselage of my coupe, but I don't think I'd want
to
try it on the fabric wings.
I did just get a response from the Poly-Fiber folks...
Hi Jason. Your approach is a good one.
We recommend our 310 Cleaner diluted,
but in lieu of that reduced liquid dish soap
is good.
Kind regards,
Greg
- Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE
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Don
In the book I have "Extraordinary uses for ordinary things"
One of the uses for WD40
Is to spray WD40 on the car grille and hood before going for a drive and
most of the critters will slide right off. The few bugs that are left
will
be easy to wipe off later without damaging your car's finish.
If it works on the car it should work on your wings.
Jim Scroggins <http://jimscroggins.com/>
99714
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From: Larry Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: COUPERS TECH <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Larry Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
Well, OK, my plane has always smelled of fuel when I pop it open
after sitting with the canopy cover on it. During my last annual they
discovered a drip from the cowl tank onto my radio, necessitating the
purchase of a new radio. They sealed the tank, and said all was well.
My primer pump has leaked from time to time, also, but I haven't
noticed it doing that lately.
What are the usual culprits for the smell of gas in the cockpit? I'm
thinking the primer pump is the No. 1 suspect, then maybe weeping
tanks or connections, much of which is inside the plane? I would be
curious to know if anyone out there has cured the bad smell problem
and how.
Thanks much! Oh, BTW, the plane is now flying great after my little
wheat field incident.
Larry
N99340
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From: "Jason J Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'COUPERS TECH'" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Jason J Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
Mine is weeping at the fuel shutoff valve behind the dash. Just enough
to
be damp to the touch, but not create drips or anything else.
I think John Wright Jr said he could repair them. Maybe someday I'll fly
up
to Springfield, IL and have them fix it along with a few other wish list
items.
- Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Snyder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:30 PM
To: COUPERS TECH
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
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Well, OK, my plane has always smelled of fuel when I pop it open
after sitting with the canopy cover on it. During my last annual they
discovered a drip from the cowl tank onto my radio, necessitating the
purchase of a new radio. They sealed the tank, and said all was well.
My primer pump has leaked from time to time, also, but I haven't
noticed it doing that lately.
What are the usual culprits for the smell of gas in the cockpit? I'm
thinking the primer pump is the No. 1 suspect, then maybe weeping
tanks or connections, much of which is inside the plane? I would be
curious to know if anyone out there has cured the bad smell problem
and how.
Thanks much! Oh, BTW, the plane is now flying great after my little
wheat field incident.
Larry
N99340
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From: Donald L Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: Donald L Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Re:Wrinkles
Thanks guys, I live in Orange, Texas and the plane is in Gun Barrel,
Texas (we are not very imaginative on our town names are we) and I had my
digital camera with me and left it in the car, administer one good kick.
So I need to find an Ercoupe A/P to do a prepurchase.
Don
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From: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Larry Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "COUPERS TECH"
<[email protected]>
Reply-To: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
I had the identical problem in my ALON, shortly after purchasing it 1 1/2
years ago. Upon removal, it was apparent that a header tank leak from
above the old VHF radio and had damaged it. A previous owner had
repaired
the underside rivets on the header tank, using some sort of sealant (J B
WELD ?)which eventually leaked. John Wright ,Jr overhauled the tank at a
reasonable price and the problem has not returned in the 175 hrs since.
Prior to contacting John, I had purchased a new header tank from UNIVAIR.
It had different bracketing than mine, didn't fit, and had to be returned
for refund.
Don Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:
[COUPERS-TECH]
Fuel smell in cockpit> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:30:05 -0500>
> ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any advice in this forum.]----> > > Well, OK, my plane has always
smelled
of fuel when I pop it open > after sitting with the canopy cover on it.
During my last annual they > discovered a drip from the cowl tank onto
my radio, necessitating the > purchase of a new radio. They sealed the
tank, and said all was well. > My primer pump has leaked from time to
time, also, but I haven't > noticed it doing that lately.> > What are
the usual culprits for the smell of gas in the cockpit? I'm > thinking
the primer pump is the No. 1 suspect, then maybe weeping > tanks or
connections, much of which is inside the plane? I would be > curious to
know if anyone out there has cured the bad smell problem > and how.> >
Thanks much! Oh, BTW, the plane is now flying great after my little >
wheat field incident.> > Larry> N99340>
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From: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPE, WD-40
Sounds good, Jim, except that many/most of the car bugs end up on the
windshields, and WD-40 and is notoriously bad for rubber o-rings and
seals
such as around automobile windshields. I wouldn't use it there. I used
it
on a previous airplane's NG strut and it "ate" the o-ring seal - I should
have used hydraulic oil.
Don Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:51:22 -0400Subject: Re:
[COUPERS-TECH] DEBUGGING A COUPETo: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[email protected]
Don
In the book I have "Extraordinary uses for ordinary things"
One of the uses for WD40
Is to spray WD40 on the car grille and hood before going for a drive and
most of the critters will slide right off. The few bugs that are left
will
be easy to wipe off later without damaging your car's finish.
If it works on the car it should work on your wings.
Jim Scroggins
99714
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] ultrasonic inspection issues
Gang
I am having the ultrasonic inspection done next week. I remember reading
that some people had a problem with a few rivets that gave a bad reading
even though they were good. Something had to be done to those rivets to
get a good reading. What was it? It was something like cleaning the
tops
or something like that. I want to make sure the person inspecting my
Coupe is aware if this potential issue.
Thanks
Glen Davis CFII
Grumman Tiger N70GD
1946 Ercoupe N3103H
www.ishootpictures.com
551 358 2600
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Fuel smell in cockpit
Larry,
A friend with a 415C had a problem with the smell of fuel in the cockpit
and
found out that the fuel tank gauge sight glass gasket in the left hand
fuel
tank was leaking fuel down inside the fuselage wall and into the belly.
A
new
gasket or two fixed the problem.
Might be worth taking a look there too.
Best Regards,
Wayne DelRossi
Alon N5618F
Hours logged since restoration: 147.1
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From: "Ralph Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Tech'" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Ralph Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] SB32
From Avweb:
A recently decided enforcement case involving an FAA-certified mechanic
and
service-bulletin compliance may drastically increase operator costs and
call
into question airworthiness of thousands of in-service aircraft. A
decision
in the case, Administrator v. Law
<http://www.ntsb.gov/alj/O_n_O/docs/aviation/5221.PDF> , was adopted by
the
National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) on April 28, 2006. The NTSB is
the federal agency responsible for adjudicating FAA enforcement actions.
The
case involves a mechanic who returned to service a Lycoming piston engine
without ensuring compliance with all applicable service bulletins. No
airworthiness directive (AD) mandated service-bulletin compliance and FAA
regulations do not require service bulletins to be performed on
certificated
products like aircraft and engines unless the product is used in
commercial
operations, like under Part 135 or 121. Yet, the NTSB upheld the FAA's
enforcement action. In its decision, the NTSB determined that language in
the Lycoming engine overhaul manual incorporated by reference not just
existing service bulletins, but future ones, too. That language states,
"In
addition to this manual and subsequent revisions, additional overhaul and
repair information is published in the form of service bulletins and
service
instructions. The information contained in these service bulletins and
service instructions is an integral part of, and is to be used in
conjunction with, the information contained in this overhaul manual."
According to aviation attorney Gregory J. Reigel
<http://www.globalair.com/discussions/legal_services/article.asp> , the
decision possibly alters fundamental understandings on which maintenance
technicians and aircraft operators have relied for decades. Wrote Reigel,
"This NTSB opinion may well take some of the discretion out of the
decision-making regarding whether or not to comply with a service
bulletin."
Additionally, according to the NTSB, whether service bulletins are
mandatory
for Part 91, non-commercial operations depends upon what other
manufacturer-written materials may contain. According to Reigel, there is
no
precedent, legal or otherwise, for the NTSB's decision in this case.
________________________________
From: John Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:41 AM
To: Wood, Percy; Tech
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] SB32
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following any advice in this forum.]----
At 10:29 AM 6/5/2006, you wrote:
Are you sure that flight instruction falls under Service
Bulletins?
Percy is correct. Service bulletins are advisory for all aircraft
operated under part 91. Aircraft used in flight instruction are subject
to
100 hour inspections (or approved progressive inspections) in addition to
annuals.
John Cooper, A&P
Skyport Services
PO Box 249
4996 Delaware Tnpk
Rensselaerville, NY 12147
518 797-3064
Fax 518 797-3865
www.skyportservices.net <http://www.skyportservices.net/>
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From: John Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Tech'" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: John Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] SB32
At 09:41 AM 6/7/2006, Ralph Finch wrote:
NTSB determined that language in
the Lycoming engine overhaul manual incorporated by reference not just
existing service bulletins, but future ones, too.
OK, now you've opened a whole 'nother can of worms. In fact, this is
not new information to those of us who deal with this stuff daily
(although apparently it is to the mechanic who did the
overhaul). However, it is not applicable to the Ercoupe world as
none of the service manuals contain such language.
Simply put, when you overhaul an engine you must do it in accordance
with the manufacturer's overhaul instructions. If the instructions
contain references to future bulletins, then they become part of the
overhaul instructions. Simple enough, right?
John Cooper, A&P
Skyport Services
PO Box 249
4996 Delaware Tnpk
Rensselaerville, NY 12147
518 797-3064
Fax 518 797-3865
www.skyportservices.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Don't you just LOVE the smell of avgas in the
morning?...
The smell of gas in my case was the fuel caps.
The gaskets are OK but the casting of the cap itself is rough sand-cast
aluminum and the gasket does not seat well against it.
As a fast fix, I glued the gasket to the cap with silicone glue and it
worked.
I know the silicone won't last with the wing tank caps being unscrewed
frequently. The header tank I seldom remove, unless I am taking the cowl
off.
As a permanent fix I plan to take the caps apart and machine the bottom
surface to make it flat making sure I don't take too much off and make it
a loose
fitting cap.
Alan Fairclough
N87333
_www.texasaviator.com_ (http://www.texasaviator.com)
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From: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "COUPERS TECH" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
Here's an interesting item from Harbor Freight. Could it be used to
measure post-flight oil sump temp? Anyone out there with hands on
experience? A version with a laser pointer is only 10 bucks more.
POCKET INFRARED
THERMOMETERhttp://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92350
Don Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "COUPERS TECH" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "DONALD BOWEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
Hi, Chris and Hartmut,
I note that only a tiny square of non- reflecting tape might be applied to
the sump tank, not repainting the entire tank. Hartmut's $12 thermometer
is much like the $4 candy thermometerI already have. However, it doesn't
have the added features of the $30 one I asked about, i.e., it can seek
out hot spots on heating/air conditionng ducts, and temps of hot/cold air
coming out of the vents, AND tell your actual hot water heater temps to
compare with the settings you have made. Again, I ask if any of you have
experience with the device I mentioned, and is a laser pointer a desired
feature?
Don Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 11:27:01 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re:
[COUPERS-TECH] Oil tempTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] will give a good idea of
the temp of the oil tank, for example. Which is close to the actual oil
temp. The tank needs to be painted flat black.DONALD BOWEN
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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advice in this forum.]----
Here's an interesting item from Harbor Freight. Could it be used to
measure post-flight oil sump temp? Anyone out there with hands on
experience? A version with a laser pointer is only 10 bucks more. POCKET
INFRARED
THERMOMETERhttp://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92350
Don Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Byron Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "COUPERS TECH" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Byron Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
I use one like it at work. Works well on non reflective surface when I
use it on shiny metal I put duct tape on surface. I would probably be
accurate on the oil tank. You have to watch the size of the sample area
which gets bigger the farther you are from the surface. Gives instant
reading no time to wait for the temp to stabilize. Hope this helps.
Byron Marshall
N99884
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From: DONALD BOWEN<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chris<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; COUPERS
TECH<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
----[Please read
http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm<http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm>
before following any advice in this forum.]----
Hi, Chris and Hartmut,
I note that only a tiny square of non- reflecting tape might be applied
to the sump tank, not repainting the entire tank. Hartmut's $12
thermometer is much like the $4 candy thermometerI already have. However,
it doesn't have the added features of the $30 one I asked about, i.e., it
can seek out hot spots on heating/air conditionng ducts, and temps of
hot/cold air coming out of the vents, AND tell your actual hot water
heater temps to compare with the settings you have made. Again, I ask if
any of you have experience with the device I mentioned, and is a laser
pointer a desired feature?
Don Bowen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 11:27:01 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It will give a good idea of the temp of the oil tank, for example.
Which is close to the actual oil temp. The tank needs to be painted flat
black.
DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any
advice in this forum.]---- Here's an interesting item from Harbor
Freight. Could it be used to measure post-flight oil sump temp? Anyone out
there with hands on experience? A version with a laser pointer is only 10
bucks more.
POCKET INFRARED THERMOMETER
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92350<http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92350>
Don Bowen
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From: Sydney Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Reply-To: Sydney Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
I don't get it. Why do you want to know the oil temperature in the oil
tank? The oil temperature at the oil temp gauge bulb is the only one
that counts. If you doubt the accuracy of your gauge, remove the bulb
(not a big job) and immerse it in boiling water. We all know that water
boils at 212 degrees F. at sea level, and slightly cooler at higher
altitudes. Sorry for sounding harsh, but I guess I'm just confused.
Syd
Byron Marshall wrote:
----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any
advice in this forum.]----
I use one like it at work. Works well on non reflective surface when
I use it on shiny metal I put duct tape on surface. I would probably
be accurate on the oil tank. You have to watch the size of the sample
area which gets bigger the farther you are from the surface. Gives
instant reading no time to wait for the temp to stabilize. Hope this
helps.
Byron Marshall
N99884
----- Original Message -----
From: DONALD BOWEN <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Chris <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; COUPERS TECH
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any
advice in this forum.]----
Hi, Chris and Hartmut,
I note that only a tiny square of non- reflecting tape might be
applied to the sump tank, not repainting the entire tank.
Hartmut's $12 thermometer is much like the $4 candy thermometerI
already have. However, it doesn't have the added features of the
$30 one I asked about, i.e., it can seek out hot spots on
heating/air conditionng ducts, and temps of hot/cold air coming
out of the vents, AND tell your actual hot water heater temps to
compare with the settings you have made. Again, I ask if any of
you have experience with the device I mentioned, and is a laser
pointer a desired feature?
Don Bowen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 11:27:01 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Oil temp
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It will give a good idea of the temp of the oil tank, for
example. Which is close to the actual oil temp. The tank
needs to be painted flat black.
DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any
advice in this forum.]----
Here's an interesting item from Harbor Freight. Could it
be used to measure post-flight oil sump temp? Anyone out
there with hands on experience? A version with a laser
pointer is only 10 bucks more.
POCKET INFRARED THERMOMETER
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92350
Don Bowen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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