You bet your ass!  "Caveat Emptor" indeed!  I learned that if you go slumming 
for a "deal" on a 415C, you'll find a slum lord somewhere just waiting to give 
you one.  And don't let so-called "fresh annuals" sway your decision.  
Unfortunate but true, there are enough A&P IAs out there that will sign off on 
a truly unfit aircraft and mark it as airworthy when it's anything but.  And 
then owners like me, who didn't use a trustworthy independent inspector to do a 
pre-buy, get stuck with a piece of crap airplane that we unknowningly pass on 
to the next owner who also goes by the sign-offs and doesn't do his or her own 
due diligence.

IMHO, I would never buy another plane, Ercoupe or otherwise, unless it was 
inspected by my own guy or gal who had no financial interest in the aircraft; 
further, I would never agree to sell an aircraft to someone unless he or she 
paid for their own pre-buy before taking delivery.  I'm more interested in 
maintaining a name and reputation that is known as honest and truthful than 
buying or selling a so-called "bargain." 

There, now I'm off my soapbox for today.

Carl LaVon  


--- In [email protected], jh <j...@...> wrote:
>
> jackwhickman wrote:
> > I am new to the group and looking at Ercoupe's to buy. I want an LSA. I 
> > have two questions about mods.  (1) Do metal wings on a 415C, indicate it 
> > is no longer an LSA, or another way to ask the question, can you metalize 
> > the wings without driving a 415C out of the LSA category? 
> yes, you can metalize the wings, but watch out for the extra weight, 
> which reduces the net carrying capacity of the plane. I think the Weight 
> and Balance will have to be redone as well.
> >  (2) Can you modify a 415C to get a 90 or 100 HP engine and still qualify 
> > as an LSA? I am obviously new to Ercoupe's, any help is greatly 
> > appreciated.  
> >   
> This is more a question of whether it's allowed for the plane by what's 
> called an STC, than whether it qualifies as LSA. The Ercoupe is 
> certified in the "normal" class. Installing an engine that isn't 
> certified for that plane makes it an "experimental". I don't know the 
> ramifications of that.
> 
> If I may offer some candid advice, I've been searching for a reliable, 
> reasonably priced 415 C or CD for months, and have perused the complete 
> records of several. There's a lot more going on with regard to the 
> quality and reliability of Ercoupes than I naively thought when starting 
> out. After all, the FAA is taking care of us, aren't they?
> 
> Take a look at the Web page;
> 
> http://www.ercoupe.org/Prepurchase_inspection.html
> 
> for an eye opener of all the potential issues.
> 
> And, go through the archive of this discussion list searching for the 
> words "crash" and "failure". Furthermore, 3 Ercoupe 415s crashed between 
> April and June, I think it was. 2 of them were fatal. Pilot error, 
> mechanical failure, both? I don't know.
> 
> The other thing is, in this market, where so many are looking for 
> inexpensive LSA airplanes, the Ercoupe 415Cs are in high demand. Prices 
> are $10-$15K higher than comparable non-LSA Ercoupes. What's worse, many 
> of the 415Cs were converted to 415Ds, which is a legal change. But, the 
> 415D isn't LSA compliant. It has a MTOW ("gross weight") of 1400 lbs. 
> And, the FAA won't allow them to be converted back, even though it's 
> easy to do.
> 
> I hope this is helpful.
> 
> It's certainly caveat emptor out there. So, be careful and be safe.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jim Hart
> 
> >
> >
>


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