you know those LED battery-less flashlights which have a coil and a
magnet inside, when you shake it, the magnet moves back and forth and
charges a capacitor and then it runs the LEDs for a long time? I bet
Tilley saw one of those and decided that since a car is always moving,
it could always be shaking and make lots of energy! Plus, since those
flashlights run such a long time on a little shaking, his car will go
sooo far with a big one! =)
-Seth
On Tuesday, September 3, 2002, at 08:29 PM, Peter VanDerWal wrote:
> Please Lee, I expected better from you.
> First I didn't say that you couldn't power things with static
> electricity, I said you couldn't power a car that way. Do you really
> think they have developed something that fits into a little box and
> can gather 15-20 killowatts worth of static electricity on a
> continuous basis?
>
> Secondly your friends antenna setup is most likely collecting EMF
> energy from radio broadcasts (and lightning), not static electricity.
> Without direct beamed energy this can't power an EV either, an array
> big enough to collect any useable energy would cause more aero drag
> than the energy it collected. I won't even get into direct beamed
> energy.
>
> I'll buy the bit about these guys not knowing enough about electronics
> to know the difference between "amplifying" and "transforming" though.
>
> Lee Hart wrote:
>
>> VanDerWal, Peter MSgt wrote:
>>
>>> You guys aren't still buying into this are you? You did read the part
>>> where he claims that his box basically collects and amplifies static
>>> electricity...right? You do realize that it isn't possible to power
>>> a car this way...right? ... The man is a fraud, let it rest.
>>>
>>
>> Let's not cross the line from skeptic into cynic until we see how his
>> test turns out.
>>
>> Sure, I have my doubts (MAJOR doubts!). But I also know that many
>> great
>> inventions were accidental discoveries, and their inventor's initial
>> explanations were often far off the mark. Lee DeForest patented the
>> vacuum tube, yet his patent and statements about the device make it
>> clear that he didn't have the faintest idea how it worked.
>>
>> "Collecting" static electricity is fairly easy. There are lots of
>> electrostatic generators. Of course, they all require some form of
>> energy input (no free lunch). But some of the sources of this energy
>> can
>> be pretty obscure (friction, sky current, etc.).
>>
>> "Amplifies" could just be a layman's term for transforming
>> high-voltage
>> low-current into low-voltage high-current.
>>
>> As for not powering things with static electricity, let me tell you
>> about a friend of mine. He had an old TV antenna on his roof. He
>> observed that if you undgrounded it, it picked up a significant
>> "static"
>> voltage even in clear weather (and vastly more during a thunderstorm,
>> of
>> course). He connected it to a huge bank of capacitors, and it did
>> indeed
>> charge them up and could power loads with them (mainly, to light gas
>> discharge tubes, briefly run electrostatic motors, or produce hellish
>> arcs to entertain friends :-).
>>
>> It's not so much that you can't do things with static electricity;
>> it's
>> just that the leakage currents get so bad that it's hard to get any
>> kind
>> of efficiency out of them.
>>
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