Lee and others
I may have pushed Mr.Littlefield to far and I apologies to him and the
list. I believe we all want to be kept posted on the progress and prep for
the demo. Why would he not post his car? I don't think he realizes the
Power of the hood ornament which he will get no credit for if he doesn't
post. I am checking to see when my Truck will pop up on the top ten. I may
have made some mistakes down loading. He still could will the race(to see
who post first) I was starting to like the gentleman as I still believe that
he believes. The switching drivers really bothers me as I said before. There
is no need for that and its probable best that he "probe" the drivers
himself and find out what it is they are hiding for his own sake. This
could be how Mr..Talley is fooling him . Has Mr. littlemen invested and
supported him? who's name is on the car title? I am wondering if there
really is going to be a demonstration. They may call it off because of what
I requested. But how else could we be sure that he and the rest of us were
not being tricked Mr. Tilley and his drivers. Has anybody seen anything
other than what's been posted and on the web site. I will not go back to his
website as I have just got my computer working again. Was my request out of
line? If we are to believe what he is saying, should we know and see
everything. of course. Has he seen everything? dose he understand what he is
seeing? Mr. Littlefield I will come and help you (if I can get a ride and
if the event is really happening!!!) I will go over every inch of the car .
I will bring my meter with hood ornament charged battery and investigate. I
will get to the bottom of this (with the help of the list) and we will find
out what tricks Mr. Tilley has pulled on you.
Your friend Steve Clunn
P.S Is the list behind me on this or am I alone as we will need expert
advice and maybe the police!
I feel very strongly that my Truck (with wind mill hood ornament) should be
next to his Delorean on the top ten and was thinking that If Lee has
something to post (with hood ornament) we could have a Delorean sandwich.
But he will have to download those pictures soon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter VanDerWal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: What's in the Box? Re: Tilley Generator
> Please Lee, I expected better from you.
>
> First I didn't say that you couldn't power things with static
> electricity, I said you couldn't power a car that way. Do you really
> think they have developed something that fits into a little box and can
> gather 15-20 killowatts worth of static electricity on a continuous basis?
>
> Secondly your friends antenna setup is most likely collecting EMF energy
> from radio broadcasts (and lightning), not static electricity. Without
> direct beamed energy this can't power an EV either, an array big enough
> to collect any useable energy would cause more aero drag than the energy
> it collected. I won't even get into direct beamed energy.
>
> I'll buy the bit about these guys not knowing enough about electronics
> to know the difference between "amplifying" and "transforming" though.
>
> Lee Hart wrote:
>
> >VanDerWal, Peter MSgt wrote:
> >
> >>You guys aren't still buying into this are you? You did read the part
> >>where he claims that his box basically collects and amplifies static
> >>electricity...right? You do realize that it isn't possible to power
> >>a car this way...right? ... The man is a fraud, let it rest.
> >>
> >
> >Let's not cross the line from skeptic into cynic until we see how his
> >test turns out.
> >
> >Sure, I have my doubts (MAJOR doubts!). But I also know that many great
> >inventions were accidental discoveries, and their inventor's initial
> >explanations were often far off the mark. Lee DeForest patented the
> >vacuum tube, yet his patent and statements about the device make it
> >clear that he didn't have the faintest idea how it worked.
> >
> >"Collecting" static electricity is fairly easy. There are lots of
> >electrostatic generators. Of course, they all require some form of
> >energy input (no free lunch). But some of the sources of this energy can
> >be pretty obscure (friction, sky current, etc.).
> >
> >"Amplifies" could just be a layman's term for transforming high-voltage
> >low-current into low-voltage high-current.
> >
> >As for not powering things with static electricity, let me tell you
> >about a friend of mine. He had an old TV antenna on his roof. He
> >observed that if you undgrounded it, it picked up a significant "static"
> >voltage even in clear weather (and vastly more during a thunderstorm, of
> >course). He connected it to a huge bank of capacitors, and it did indeed
> >charge them up and could power loads with them (mainly, to light gas
> >discharge tubes, briefly run electrostatic motors, or produce hellish
> >arcs to entertain friends :-).
> >
> >It's not so much that you can't do things with static electricity; it's
> >just that the leakage currents get so bad that it's hard to get any kind
> >of efficiency out of them.
> >
>
>
