If I am not mistaken, an RV uses an extension cord, having a male plug
on the side of the RV into which you plug the female side of the
extension
and the male end goes into the receptacle on the pole in the RV park.
Nobody requires you to plug the male end in last (or throw the breaker
last)
so in theory you can plug in at the pole, throw the breaker and then
walk with the hot femal end of the extension to the RV to plug it in.
It is not the recommended way, but it is possible and would resemble a
situation in a home where you plug an extension cord into the wall first
and then walk with the hot female end to where your load is.

This is not the situation with the EVSE though, because the female plug
is not powered until the pilot signal detects that it is connected to a
car.
So, the EVSE case resembles much more an automated RV situation where
you
first plug in the extension cord on both sides, then throw the breaker
to energize.
In theory the EVSE could have the J1772 pistol and cord as a plug-in,
extension cord type, but that is not how the EVSE are defined
mechanically.

Cor van de Water
Chief Scientist
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Peri Hartman
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:10 AM
To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVSE-overcrowing replaces range-angst

There's one fundamental difference: for the EVSE the cord is
pre-attached to
the "hot" end.  The reverse is true for RVs.

Peri

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
Of Zeke Yewdall
Sent: 13 March, 2013 7:56 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVSE-overcrowing replaces range-angst

> There are a lot of RVs on the road and no one seems to get shocked
using
> the
> 50A outlets.  But of course the extension cord is dead until the male
plug
> is plugged into the receptacle and it is difficult to shock yourself
with
> the female connector.  It is of course different on EV extensions
where
one
> could attach the connector to the battery pack first creating the
> possibility of getting a shock from the male plug prior to plugging it
into
> the AC receptacle, or a shock from the male plug on the EV itself
before
> the
> extension is connected.


We are talking about AC in the cord, not DC, right?   (this would be
different for the DC charge port).   The car is not capable of
generating
any AC (unless its a V2G car, which already has tons of complicated
electronics to prevent this).  So, it's still only a cord energized by
grid
voltage.  So it's not any different on an EV situation than on an RV
situation, it seems to me.
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