Hi Lawrence,

My experience with Thundersky (now Winston I think) says that you won't get
500-700 amps out of them.  I consider 300A max and usually try not to pull
more than 200A.  You might get that much from CALB, but I think 300-500A is
more realistic.  I have heard that they make 3-5C ok, where the Thundersky
are 3C at best.

I have been very happy with my miniBMS and Elcon charger.  I wouldn't risk a
dumb charger with lithium cells.  With a good BMS you might get away with
it,  but I like knowing that the charger normally terminates charge
automatically and the BMS is a backup.  With a dumb charger, you are
depending on the BMS to terminate charging.

I get 50 mile range with 45 100Ah cells on tne Honda del Sol.  I think the
miniBMS is about $10-12 per cell plus about $60 for the main control.  I
don't know if it's the cheapest, but it does the job.  I have the version
with shunts.  I find they aren't enough to balance a pack that is out of
balance, but I find they can keep it in balance.  I use an RC charger to top
up cells to get the pack in balance.

Mike
www.evalbum.com/2778


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 7:17 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: [EVDL] 100ah pack on the cheap
> 
> I've checked out some Chinese battery suppliers and seems prices are
> around 100 dollars a cell.  A 144v pack will be 45 or so cells.  Should
yield a 50
> mile usable range on the Ford Aspire.  What is the best supplier and
battery
> for the money?  Could a regular K&W work as the charger?  Trying to do
this
> on the cheap. What is the best bargain in BMS?  I've been into lead so
long I
> need advice on the best way to go on lithium.  The 144v system draws 500
to
> 700 amps
> max.   Lawrence Rhodes
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