Matthew Parkhouse, RN
hobomatt@ aol.com



On 11 Jun 2556 BE, at 21:45, Bob Bath <[email protected]> wrote:

> Okay, so the next thing is whether the voltage from the pack is getting 
> through the motor.  We have motor windings that can burn out, and we have a 
> controller that can have a massive silicon failure.  
> Need to see what the potbox is doing too.  Eventually, they lose their carbon 
> and give erratic readings (but you usually at least get _some_ vehicle 
> movement.  You'd use your ohmmeter section for that.  I'm guessing you have a 
> true RMS voltmeter?
>  
> Thinking about converting a gen. 5 ('92-95) Honda Civic?  See 
> http://home.budget.net/~bbath/CivicWithACord.html for DVD and tons more info!
> ____ 
> __/__|__\__ 
> =D-------/   -   -   \ 
> 'O'-----'O'-'
> Would you still drive your car if the tailpipe came out of the steering wheel?
> OR Lic. "LCTRNS"
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: 85VWCabrioletEV <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] 85 VW Cabriolet Newbie, please help! m(_ _)m
> 
> 
> Bob Bath wrote
>> Going to need more info than that.  
>> - Pack voltage currently, vs. regular pack voltage
>> the batteries have only been charged once with a Lester Electronics
>> off-board charger.  I was told a fully charged US-125 is about 6.3v 
>> 6.3x20=126v...but I just called American Battery in Hayward and they say
>> 6.6-6.8v per cell.  6.7x20=134v
>> this morning I was at 126.4v
>> 
>> - Voltage of aux. battery/DCDC converter.
>> 
>> When key is on, DC/DC converter is jumping 12v battery output to 14.1v
>> 
>> - Is main contactor being pulled in when you power up the vehicle?
>> 
>> Yes
>> 
>> This will get us started.
>> (;-p
>> 
>>  
>> Thinking about converting a gen. 5 ('92-95) Honda Civic?  See
>> http://home.budget.net/~bbath/CivicWithACord.html for DVD and tons more
>> info!
>> ____ 
>> __/__|__\__ 
>> =D-------/   -   -   \ 
>> 'O'-----'O'-'
>> Would you still drive your car if the tailpipe came out of the steering
>> wheel?
>> OR Lic. "LCTRNS"
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>>   From: 85VWCabrioletEV &lt;
> 
>> sfnotecorp@
> 
>> &gt;
>> To: 
> 
>> [email protected]
> 
>>   
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:31 PM
>> Subject: [EVDL] 85 VW Cabriolet Newbie, please help! m(_ _)m
>>   
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I spent a full 7 days in Santa Cruz last week working side by side with
>> Mike
>> and Shari at Electro Automotive to finish repairs on my 85 VW Cabriolet
>> conversion.  The good news is the vehicle was operating nicely when I left
>> Santa Cruz on Saturday with the VW on a flatbed uhaul trailer.  The bad
>> news
>> is that once I arrived in Los Angeles, I backed the VW off of the flatbed
>> trailer, made two small circles in the parking lot, and proceeded to park
>> the car.  I then left the VW in the parking lot while I returned the uhaul
>> trailer.  When I returned to the parking lot to make the final 2 mile
>> drive
>> home in EV glory, the VW would not move an inch. 
>> 
>> m(_ _)m
>> 
>> This is my first EV, and therefore I am hoping you experienced EVers can
>> help me troubleshoot and isolate the problem.....  Atleast the EV is home
>> now thanks to AAA.
>> 
>> Vehicle:
>> 1985 VW Cabriolet
>> 120 volt lead acid.... US battery US-125 ..... 20 6volt batteries
>> Advanced DC 9" motor
>> Auburn Scientific MPWC600 - water cooled controller
>> Elcon DC/DC converter
>> power brake booster
>> 
>> Problem:
>> As mentioned above, after backing vehicle off of flatbed trailer and
>> parking
>> for about 45 minutes, I returned to make final 2 mile drive home, but the
>> EV
>> would no longer move. I could here contactors close, and able to read a
>> full
>> voltage of 126v at the B- and B+ connections of the controller.  I
>> connected
>> 12v Aux battery to A1 and S1 on motor to verify motor would still turn
>> which
>> it did.  After some reading, I suspected the controller may have triggered
>> itself into sleep mode due to pot box or abnormal voltage sensed by
>> controller.  I took ohm readings on 5k pot box which read 0 at one
>> extreme,
>> and 5.8k at the other extreme.  I did not have time to work on car
>> yesterday, so car sat for 24hrs with high voltage emergency disconnect
>> switch behind driver activated and therefore cutting the traction pack
>> from
>> controller and motor.  This morning I measured pre charge voltage at
>> controller on B- and B+ on controller which showed 0 volts, so I closed
>> the
>> emergency disconnect, and turned key switch to on, and motor would turn
>> while car was in neutral.  I decided to drive the car and drove uphill
>> (steep) 30 feet in my driveway.  Since car was able to pull the hill, I
>> coasted to bottom of hill and turned onto public street.  As I accelerated
>> more, the motor would cutout until I released accelerator pedal and then
>> accelerate again, each time cutting out the motor after only slight
>> acceleration.  After maybe 5 or 6 attempts to gain speed, the controller
>> and
>> motor became completely un responsive again.   Tried to zero out the
>> precharge voltage and start over, but was unable to wake up controller.  I
>> am not certain if there is a reset procedure for the controller that I
>> should be following...... after problem occurs and I activate manual
>> disconnect switch, I still read 1.5 to 2 volts at B- /B+.  The only
>> difference I have found between Santa Cruz readings and Los Angeles
>> readings
>> is that when the traction pack is connected but the key switch is off I am
>> now reading approximately 74.5volts, and in Santa Cruz when everything
>> functioned normally, it would read approximately 81.5 volts.  When key
>> switch is turned on, it reads the full traction pack voltage of 126.4
>> volts
>> both in LA and Santa Cruz.  I notice as I type this that the difference in
>> pre charge voltage is approximately 6 volts which may indicate a loose
>> connection on 1 6v battery?????
>> 
>> Please help.... and thanks in advance!  Feel free to call  :)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
>> 562 665 4541
>> feel free to call
> 
>> sfnotecorp@
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