Speaking as a newbie to the list (last November), I've been surprised
by the levels of invective levelled at H2. There have been a lot of
assumptions that it cannot possibly ever be efficiently produced
without a bad carbon footprint, and lots (my perception) of ad hominem
attacks. I'd like to think that if we can find ways to efficiently and
cleanly produce new battery technologies, we could have our minds open
to the possibility of clean H2 generation, separating the issue that
in practice right now most H2 generation is very dirty from the
question of different forms of chemically storing electrical energy in
the long run.

Change to allow H2 discussion, or continue to ban it, but the
derogatory language about it gets tiresome and I'll bet it turns off
more people than just me. When looking for problems to police, if you
want to police H2 discussions, I would suggest to include in the
policing derogatory comments about the technology and people as well
as promotion and technical discussion thereof. Complaining only about
the promotion and letting the derogatory comments slide is kind of a
one-sided enforcement of the rules.

My 2¢, do what you like, I'm hardly a major contributor here. ☺

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> The original EVDL charter, written by our founder Clyde Visser back in the
> internet's dim past (1991) says, "the energy storage device [for an EV] ...
> can [be a] ... fuel cell ..."
>
> But not too far into this long history of the EVDL - I think about 1995 or
> so - we had a pretty detailed discussion about discussion of FCEVs and H2.
> We even took a vote, and folks decided that we'd minimize FCEV and H2
> discussion.
>
> Was that a mistake?  Is it a mistake to continue on that road?  The folks
> who say that H2 is the way forward surely think so.
>
> Well, if it is, we're still making it today.  (Hint, hint.)
>
> You know, one of the huge advantages of the internet is that, unlike
> broadcast spectrum, it's effectively just about infinite.  Unlike newspapers
> and magazines, it's dirt-cheap to make your voice heard, at least so far.
>
> There's room for lots more internet discussion forums like this one.
> Somewhere there has to be a place where H2 and FCEV enthusiasts can
> congregate.  If not, it's almost trivial to start one.
>
> Thus I will refer y'all to the EVDL conventions:
>
> http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#conv
>
> Please read point 2f.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
> EVDL Administrator
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