Yup,
People have a big "foot print".
But that is a whole 'nother discussion,
except that with renewable energy powering the transportation,
I am able to reduce my foot print and I chose to do that using
an EV and buying green electricity...

Cor van de Water
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Goren [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 1:26 PM
To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

On Mar 30, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> There is a case for cars that get used very little (infrequent or very short 
> drives) and can be parked in full sun
> 
> (like on a parking deck top floor, no trees or other buildings) so you can 
> gain charge over time, about 5 hours
> 
> (full sun equivalent hours that is) per day, for an optimal-max of 5 kWh 
> harvested each day.

...but...if you have the space you can permanently devote to parking the car 
like that...you can do far better on every front by putting the panels over 
that space, when they can generate power when you've got the car out and about, 
and generate more power when the car's sitting there, and power other things as 
well, and so on.

The only really not-crazy practical use case I can think of for a solar EV is 
for a nomad who's not in any type of a rush to get from one place to another. 
(Of course, they make great project challenges, especially for engineering 
students -- but they don't try to pretend that the vehicles are useful 
general-purpose vehicles).

...and, even if you <i>are</i> the nomad type...you're probably still better 
off with the panels stowed away when driving, and setting them up as a 
tent-like structure over the vehicle when you've settled down for a couple days 
while you recharge for the next few hours of driving.

Come to think of it, even that isn't exactly practical, either.

You know...there's another way to look at it.

All life (within rounding) on Earth is solar powered. Plants, obviously. 
Animals eat the plants.

Consider the acreage needed to sustain a person. People are very small and low 
power objects compared to high-speed vehicles.

b&
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