Mark, I think you are confused between a "motorized bicycle" which is the language that the traffic law uses for a bicycle with a small ICE, typically a single piston two-stroke engine (polluting, noisy and resembling a moped, but slower)
and the "electric bicycle" aka eBike which has no emissions (other than "the long tailpipe" if it is charged from grid power and not from 100% renewable. Almost all assisted bicycles that I see anywhere are e-Bikes, due to the lack of hassle (no maintenance, fill-up, fouling, heat, noise, smell and so on. Just charge and go. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP: +31877841130 Tel: +1 408 383 7626 Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 -----Original Message----- From: EV on behalf of Mark Abramowitz via EV Sent: Sun 8/23/2015 11:31 AM To: Ben Goren; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Bu's e-wheely bad idea> weaving-recklessly the wrongwayHT delivery Two-stroke engines are hi emission. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Ben Goren via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > >> On Aug 23, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >> If it merely 100% replaces a pedal-only bike, then clearly it is dirtier. > > I can't help but think this is the perfect being the enemy of the good. > > Even the worst full-sized gasoline-powered motorcycle is going to get better > fuel economy than the best econobox, and the average motorcycle pollutes so > much less than the average passenger vehicle it's not even funny. If > motorcycles were the norm, we wouldn't be in the pickle we're in today. > > Similarly, full-sized electric motorcycles put both gasoline-powered > motorcycles and full-sized electric vehicles to shame -- and two-stroke > gas-powered assisted bicycles are even more energy-efficient than full-sized > electric motorcycles. > > And a bicycle with an electric assist? Your stereotypical teenaged girl is > going to use more electricity drying her hair in the morning than an > electric-assist bicycle is going to use. > > So, is an electric-assist bicycle somehow dirtier than a bicycle without > electric assist? Does that even deserve to be dignified with a response? > > Anything that's not a full-sized gas-powered single-occupant daily commuter > car is a win for the planet. Full-sized electric vehicles are a fantastic > replacement...but all the other options should be encouraged as well. > > And you will not find <i>any</i> powered vehicle friendlier to the > environment than an electric-human hybrid. > > b& > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 801 bytes > Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150823/2d6f4cd2/attachment.pgp> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
