> A Tesla would do that. Not for the $12k I paid for my 2013 volt.
> So could any of the FCEVs. Whether the latter were feasible would depend on where you live. Not for the $12k I paid for my 2013 Volt. And the FCEV would be a royal pain in the tusch because It has to be refuled somewhere probably no closer than 50 m iles form my house, whereas the PIH plugs in at home overnight and is full every morning with only 10 seconds of my time. AND on the rare trip to grammas, I can refuel it on almost any street corner. > I also wonder if incentives for PIHs are impacting the offerings of automakers. > If there were no PIH incentives, would we have longer range pure EVs? I don't know the answer. I do. Even at the future expected low cost of batteries, it makes no sense to haul around a 4-times heavier battery that adds $20,000 to the cost of the car everyday forever that is only used once a month and takes 30 minutes to charge that one time a month you need it on the road, compared to carrying around an extra 600 lbs of gas engine that can be refuled anywhere, anytime in 5 minutes. I think PIH's are hear to stay for the single car owner who does mostly local travel but also needs the car for the occasional trip. It makes no economic sense to buy a 250 mile BEV and then rarely use it while still suffering its limitations. Bob, WB4aPR Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 15, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <email@example.com> wrote: > > Nope, the Volt with its 50 mile EV range and 350 mile overall range is > ideal for me. My daily use is about 32 miles so I drive exclusively > on electricity from my home solar. Yet we can go to gramma's at the > drop of a hat which is 150 miles away too. All for only the $12k > like-new purchase price for the 3 year old off-lease VOLT. Ain't no > BEV that could do that. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Abramowitz [mailto:ma...@enviropolicy.com] > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ford's Energi pih abandonment raises questions> > (AK writer's EV-ignorance > > Well, you could have used something else zero emission if you had it > instead of your PIH (and create a bit less pollution than a full ICE), > but again, your use is unfortunately not typical. > >>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV >>> <firstname.lastname@example.org> >> wrote: >> >> Ive only used 7 gallons of gas in my PIH Volt. But today, I had to >> go to a meeting 25 miles away. No problem. I just drove. Gas >> engine kicked in as needed. Yes, I used another gallon and a half of >> gas, but then if I had not had a PIH, I could not have gone to the meeting. >> >> Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: >>> I don't get why people get so excited about PIHs. > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)