https://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/cobalt/mcs-2017-cobal.pdf
Doesn’t sound like there is a problem to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Michael Ross via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > You don't have to look very far to get a grip on the supply difficulties > that are here already. Tesla hasn't come close to their minuscule 500,000 > vehicles a year goal and the existing market for battery materials is close > to tapped out. > > Build up of mining capabilities will inevitably happen, but it will not be > fast and there are orders of magnitude more needed just to handle cells for > vehicles. > > And we are saying that batteries for grid storage is "there?" Not a chance. > > https://electrek.co/2016/11/01/ > *breakdown-raw-materials-tesla-batteries-possible-bottleneck/* > <https://electrek.co/2016/11/01/breakdown-raw-materials-tesla-batteries-possible-bottleneck/> > > Cobalt is sourced only from the Congo. This supply chain is very tenuous. > Cost in this article is said to be $27,000/tonne. > > The article did not tally the mass of cobalt in a Li ion cell. Musk is > most worried about Co supplies. > > <goog_745312217> > https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/01/*no-cobalt-no-tesla/* > <https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/01/no-cobalt-no-tesla/> > > http://www.co27.com/cobalt/about/ > > <http://www.co27.com/cobalt/about/> > " <http://www.co27.com/cobalt/about/>The Tesla Model S uses a 95 kWh > battery pack which contains *14.9 kg of cobalt per vehicle.*" > > "The global *cobalt market was in a supply deficit in 2016* for the first > time since 2009" > > http://benchmarkminerals.com/ > *elon-musk-our-lithium-ion-batteries-should-be-called-nickel-graphite/* > <http://benchmarkminerals.com/elon-musk-our-lithium-ion-batteries-should-be-called-nickel-graphite/> > > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/29/electric-cars-battery-manufacturing-cobalt-mining > > > > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Michael Ross <michael.e.r...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> You did not run any numbers. The mining implications are paramount. >> >> Recycled EV batteries won't make a dent. >> >> > -- > Michael E. Ross > (919) 585-6737 Land > (19) 901-2805 Cell and Text > (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Tablet, > Google Phone and Text > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180104/265a6e36/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20180105/5433f9a8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)