On 10 Jul 2020 at 15:48, paul dove via EV wrote: > ThatTMs nuts. Batteries are still the barrier. You canTMt even convert one > with that much range for that price
Not so fast there. The EV economy of scale we've been talking about for 25+ years is finally happening, at least in Europe and Asia. Development is moving quickly, and competition on price and range is starting to heat up. In Germany, the 2020 VW E-Up is 17,595 euros ($19,706) after incentives. It has a 36.8kWh battery and a range of 260km (160mi). https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/e/first-drives/volkswagen-e- 2020-uk-review Or how about a Renault City K-ZE? Getting solid info is a bit frustrating, with published prices varying from $8,700 to $12,000, and range from 250km (155mi) to 270km (170mi), depending on the source. The battery is 26.8kWh. It's currently offered only in China, but a modified version with improved safety, more power, and no doubt a higher price, will probably appear in Europe in 2021. It may be sold under the Dacia name. My guess is that they'll offer it at around the VW E-Up's price. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_City_K-ZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ5ymZpVpt0 Anything else you'd like to say is nuts? :-) David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. -- Charles Babbage = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)