I agree. It's all subjective, of course. On the other hand, i think the real question is "when."
Without Musk, I'm certain EVs would have eventually become a commercial product. But compare this to the reduction in working at the office and shopping in physical stores. Before COVID, the trend was evident. The shift was certain to happen ...eventually. But COVID sharply accelerated the change. Likewise, so did Musk. Peri ________________________________ From: Willie via EV <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:34 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Willie Subject: Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch On 5/20/22 13:29, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > On 19 May 2022 at 13:17, Willie via EV wrote: > >> I find it impossible to believe we would be where we are now without >> Tesla and Musk. That is why I am so bumfuzzled by negativism toward >> both. > Hmm, I thought I'd answered that in past posts. Sorry if it wasn't clear. > I'll try again, and I hope that others will have some thoughts too. Well.... I remain bumfuzzled. I just can not see from your viewpoint. For decades, you and many of us here have striven to promote adoption of EVs. In the past ~10 years, we have enjoyed astonishing success. To most, it is clear that Tesla/Musk is the near sole cause. Yet you try to argue that it would be happening in the absence of Tesla/Musk. And, you fault Musk not on his accomplishments but on his personality. Thereby denying/refuting/ignoring those accomplishments. Personally, I find most auto advertising insulting. I cite recent Cadillac EV advertising that the Cadillac buyer can be "iconic" and all sorts of vague meaningless terms. Tesla is highly admirable in choosing to let customers sell cars through honest evaluations. With ZERO advertising. A very significant side effect is that Tesla has near zero support from mainstream media. That, because of the tremendous ad revenues coming from traditional auto makers and dealers. I do wish Musk would be more circumspect in his public statements but I consider that flaw to be dwarfed by his accomplishments. But, Musk is savaged by MSM and many are swayed by MSM, not really doing much independent thinking. On FSD: as others have pointed out, it is an option. It need not be bought or used if bought. Despite all the negative MSM coverage, AP and FSD statistics are that a driver using it is far less likely to have an accident than a driver that does not use it. I fail to understand how critics remain critical in the face of such facts. _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220521/7b582d06/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
