> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 5:44 PM
> To: Alexander Limi
> Cc: Nate Aune; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Constance Kobylarz;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dylan Jay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chris Johnson;
> Mark A Corum; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roberto Allende; Luciano Ramalho;
> Horak, Karl; Jordan Baker; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; evangelism@lists.plone.org
> Subject: Re: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck
> 
> 
> On 20 Oct 2008, at 01:03, Alexander Limi wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Gerry Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > Indeed, thanks for taking the lead on this Constance. My favourite
> > slide is the $50k one too. :)
> >
> > Yes, this is visually a very powerful way to show the differences
> > between commercially licensed CMSes and customizable open source
> > CMSes. I think it's important however to clarify what we mean by
> > customization, as Matt Hamilton mentioned at the "So you want to be
> > a Plone consultant" panel discussion that when customers see how
> > much money goes towards customization, they assume that the CMS must
> > not have very much out-of-the-box functionality, and therefore needs
> > a lot of customization.
> >
> > Maybe "integration" is better than "customization"?
> 
> I think integration is a bit more of a loaded word.  I can imagine
> many potential customers saying 'but I don't need any integration!'.
> I really like the graph, but yes I think we need a way to better show
> proportions and what you are getting.  I think most of us here would
> agree that with OSS the total cost would be lower, so I'm wondering if
> we might want to not have 50K for both.  The problem then is what *do*
> we say for both... as we are just showing example indicative costs of
> some theoretical project....

OSS is about value for money not being cheap or free. Which sounds better to
you? I think OSS has suffered a lot by people pushing the line of customers
saving money. It's built into our brains that there is always a trade-off if
we go cheap.
Also most organisations have budgets. They want to get the best deal for
those budgets not try a have money left over.
For this reason I think it's an excellent idea to have both at 50k. Leave it
to the reader to figure out that if they better more for their $50k than
proprietary then they have more flexibility if they want get rid of things
to make it fit a smaller budget.


> -Matt
> 
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