Quentin Anciaux wrote: > Hi, > > 1Z wrote: > > I will take the stuff that seems solid to me as primary reality until > > demostrated > > otherwise. > > This was not the point... the point was to make you understand that > Bruno has proved that *IF* computationalism is true *THEN* primary > reality does not exists ! It even doesn't mean anything in this > context.
And the point of my various comments is that what he has actualy shown is that IF computationalism is true AND ontologicial Platonism is true AND if the HP prolbem can be solved AND the appearance-of-time problem can be solved AND if there is nothing more to consciousness than cognition AND occam's razor still applies in Paltonia THEN materialism is an unnecessary hypothesis. > So the point is not that you accept or not computationalism and > stuffy/not stuffy stuff... It is just that if you accept > computationalism you cannot accept a primary reality... If you do not > (as it seems) then it's normal, but you cannot claim computationalism > at the same time, Bruno proved that it is not compatible. Bruno-computationalism is standard computationalism+platonism. Since I reject platomnism, I reject Bruno-computationalism (whilst having rather less problem with the standard computational thesis, that "cognition is computation"). --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---