Tom Caylor wrote: > Russell Standish wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 04:32:37PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > > > > > > Le 21-nov.-06, à 03:42, Tom Caylor a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > 1. What is the purpose of this 0-person? What role does it play? As > > > > soon as we say it has a purpose or role, we've just instantiated it. > > > > Why do you (or Plotinus) think we need it? > > > > > > > > > > > > The 0-person is the big whole. It is the "everything". A physicalist > > > could say it is the whole UNIverse. A physicalist MW could say: it is > > > the whole multiverse. It is something which could only be viewed from > > > outside the universe: that is from nowhere. > > > > > > > For anyone who has read my book, it should be obvious that this > > 0-person view is what I call the 3rd person view in my book. (page 160) > > > > What Bruno is now calling the 3rd person point of view I label 1st > > person plural. Bruno is now distinguishing several different types of 1st > > person plural viewpoints. > > > > I believe I took an accurate snapshot of the terminological usage at > > the time I wrote the book, but terminology in this field does have a > > habit of moving on (and so it should). > > > > Cheers > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > > Mathematics > > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wait. The 0-person view is a view that none of us can take, so it > can't be the 3rd person view or discourse. The 0-person view has no > thought or discourse. It is the whole universe, or the whole of > arithmetic truth...
I think I am guilty of introducing the term "0 personal" in a conversation with David Nyman. His point was that you can't have a 3rd-personal view without persons. I don't think that is necessarily an important distinction. The 0 personal view could coincide with the 3rd personal view. Just because you are a person, doesn't mean your personhood infects everything you see and do. > Tom --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
