You're doing a giant step for considering current GoL as an
universe... but anyway you can, but it's not because you see one
glider in your tiny framed GoL that the interaction of billions of
cells does not generate a consciousness inside the GoL universe and
you as an "external" observer couldn't see/recognize it as it is.


2007/7/4, Torgny Tholerus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  David Nyman skrev:
> On 04/07/07, Stathis Papaioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  SP:  We can imagine an external observer looking at two model universes A
>  and B side by side, interviewing their occupants.
>  DN:  Yes, and my point precisely is that this is an illegitimate sleight of
> imagination where the thought experiment goes amiss.  When one imagines the
> 'external' observer 'looking' at two universes, one constructs precisely the
> false relationship that is the source of the confusion with respect to
> consciousness.  Any possible observer must in fact be integral to their own
> universe.
>  You can look at the Game-of-Life-Universe, where you can see how the
> "gliders" move.  If you look at "Conway's game of Life" in Wikipedia, you
> can look at how the Glider Gun is working in the top right corner.  This is
> possible although there is no observer integral to that Universe.
>  The same is true about the B-Universe.  You can look at it as an outside
> observer.
>  --
>  Torgny Tholerus
>  >

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