Bruno,
               Can you clarify the origins of the Lobian Machine? Does it arise 
out of the theorem of Hugo Martin Lob? Is it shorthand for the "lobes" of the 
human brain? What is the difference between a lobian machine and a universal 
lobian machine? And how do they relate to the question of free will? Many 
thanks,
                                                                                
                                                                                
           marty a.





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  From: Bruno Marchal 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry.




  On 17 Mar 2010, at 14:06, m.a. wrote:


    But is there a deliberate feedback (of any kind) between first person and 
UD? 


  No. The UD can be seen as a set of elementary arithmetical truth, realizing 
through their many proofs, the many computations. It is the least 
"block-universe" fro the mindscape. (Assuming comp).






    How does the UD identify and favor our normal histories? 


  Excellent question. This is the reason why we are hunting white rabbits and 
white noise. This why we have to extracts the structure of matter and time from 
a sum on infinity of computations (those below or even aside our level and 
sphere of definition). If we show that such sum does not "normalize", then we 
refute comp.






    How do the lobian numbers affect the UD. (I think you've answered these 
questions before but not in ways that are clear to me. Please give it one last 
try.)            m.a.





  Löbian machine survives only in their consistent extension. It is the couple 
lobian-machine/its realities which emerge from inside the UD* (the execution of 
the UD, or that part of arithmetic).


  The free-will of a lobian number is defined with respect to its most probable 
realities. They can affect such realities, and be affected by them. But no 
lobian number/machine/entity/soul (if you think at its first person view) can 
affect the UD, for the same reason we cannot affect elementary arithmetic.  (or 
the physical laws, for a physicalist).


  Look at UD* (the infinite run of the UD), or arithmetic, as the block 
universe of the mindscape. Matter is a projective view of arithmetic, when 
viewed by universal numbers from inside it. Normality is ensured by relative 
self-multiplication, making us both very rare in the absolute, and very 
numerous in the relative. Like with Everett, except we start from the numbers, 
and shows how to derive the wave, not just the collapse.


  I just explain that if we take comp seriously, the mind body problem leads to 
a mathematical body problem.


  Bruno








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