On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 27, 11:04 am, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:

Craig,

Would you agree that intelligence cannot be faked? That is to say, if your youtube program were a good enough representation to give the appearance of intelligence, is that process necessarily intelligent? If your youtube
program were presented with SAT questions, and it scored highly, say
representative of a person with a 150 IQ, do you think it is possible to claim the process is only offering fake intelligence, in actuality it is not intelligent but just blindly following instructions and not understanding a
thing?

Thanks,

Jason

Intelligence is just a word. It wasn't intended to differentiate human
from non human or genuine from simulated intelligence. All of our
terms - consciousness, sentience, awareness, life, etc are too loose
for these kinds of hypotheticals. It would be more appropriate maybe
to ask whether the process being offered is robotic versus adaptive,
spanning tree or neural network, etc. It's not a matter of being fake
or not, it's just a matter of how similar it's experience is to ours

Ignore inner experiences for the purposes of answering this question. (for now at least)

Assume there is a program which chooses the exactly correct YouTube videos to display in response to any given question, and it chooses the videos so well that not even your best friend could distinguish between it and a live skype call with you.

My question to you is: given the YouTube video responses give the appearence of an intelligent person, does that imply that an intelligent process must be involved? Or, can something behave intelligently without any intelligent process being involved?


Jason


and how easily we can relate the results of it's process as resembling
out own. If you give a computer program the answers to the SAT, then
it will score highly. It still has no capacity to care about it. What
we see as intelligence in a computer is our own intelligence reflected
back to us - piggybacking on the molecular unity of silicon and other
glass-like semiconductive materials. It's native intelligence is low
level - hot wires and stop-go-stop traffic lights.

Craig
http://s33light.org

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