Dear Pilar, as your fellow "Not-English-Mothertongue" guy. I point to the*incompleteness * in this language:* "Nothing" - "EXISTS" not.* It isn't. But it is bad English to write: * "Why 'is-not' nothing?"* so we have a discussion point. In my (non-IndoEuropean) mothertongue the question is exactly formulated in the 'wrong(?)' way. *(Miert nincs semmi?*)
I see you take it for granted that "the Universe was born". Was it indeed? Maybe "OUR" universe was, but I speak about the "World" (Multiverse, none of them necessarily identical in any sense) in which we inhabit a pretty simple one with 'the' physical system we have. Our limited imagination can work only with 'somethings', *nothing* has no meaning (if it includes such meaning - it would negate its true meaning - <G>) E.g. 'Physically' it cannot be bordered - or I ask: is such border inside the nothing (when it is nothing), or outside (when it does not belong (in)to it)? ~2 decades ago I wrote a little silly 'ode' to 'Somethingness" starting with the BLANK: *And there was 'NOTHING" at all.* (I don't recall the rhythmic words anymore)* And when this nothingness 'realized it's nothingness then it changed into a 'somethingness' - as * *indeed it's nothingness. And the World was shaped in the course of such build-up*... I don't think 'nothing' is a 'poosible state' - I don't mix it up with 'zero' or 'null', just think about the meaningless meaning of it. No this, no that - MAYBE. I would not 'negate' ideas (states, as you call them) we don't know about. And we have lots beyond our knowledge. Best regards John M On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:34 PM, RMahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Aug 11, 3:48 pm, Pilar Morales <[email protected]> wrote: > > ... To truly define non-existence, you would have to define a set of all > > that it is not: no time, no matter, no energy, no ideas, no mathematical > > constructs, and no each of the etcs to infinity. > > So out of nothing the universe of everything is born. > > In the beginning there was nothing. But what is nothing. The lack of > an infinite number of potential somethings. So nothing is just one of > an infinite number of possible states. All possible states "exist" > because they are possible. It has all always been here and will > always be here, all possible states, all possible events. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
