"What is there? Everything! So what isn't there? Nothing!"
--- Norm Levitt, after Quine
On 8/12/2011 1:02 PM, John Mikes wrote:
as your fellow "Not-English-Mothertongue" guy. I point to the*
incompleteness* in this language:*/ "Nothing" - _"EXISTS"_ not./* It
isn't. But it is bad English to write:
_ "Why 'is-not' nothing?"_ so we have a discussion point. In my
(non-IndoEuropean) mothertongue the question is exactly formulated in
the 'wrong(?)' way.
_(Miert nincs semmi?_)
I see you take it for granted that "the Universe was born". Was it
indeed? Maybe "OUR" universe was, but I speak about the "World"
(Multiverse, none of them necessarily identical in any sense) in which
we inhabit a pretty simple one with 'the' physical system we have.
Our limited imagination can work only with 'somethings', *nothing* has
no meaning (if it includes such meaning - it would negate its true
meaning - <G>) E.g. 'Physically' it cannot be bordered - or I ask: is
such border inside the nothing (when it is nothing), or outside (when
it does not belong (in)to it)?
~2 decades ago I wrote a little silly 'ode' to 'Somethingness"
starting with the BLANK:
/And there was 'NOTHING" at all./ (I don't recall the rhythmic words
anymore)/ And when this nothingness 'realized it's nothingness then it
changed into a 'somethingness' - as /
/indeed it's nothingness. And the World was shaped in the course of
I don't think 'nothing' is a 'poosible state' - I don't mix it up
with 'zero' or 'null', just think about the meaningless meaning of it.
No this, no that - MAYBE. I would not 'negate' ideas (states, as you
call them) we don't know about. And we have lots beyond our knowledge.
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