On 1/31/2012 12:48 PM, Joseph Knight wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
2012/1/31 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
On Jan 31, 11:46 am, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 2012/1/31 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
>
> > When we close our eyes, we still see visual noise, even in
total
> > darkness. If qualia were based on computation, we should
expect that
> > no sensory input should equate to total blackness, since
there is no
> > information to report.
>
> ??????
>
> WTF ?
Visual silence is easily represented. Why the superfluous
light show?
Nothing is easily represented... why something ? Have you more
stupid though to discuss in your pocket ?
I am debating with myself the matter of whether or not Craig is a troll.
He commits the cardinal sin of not being willing to learn the basic
ideas of a realm of discourse, before trying to demonstrate important
results in that realm. I tried talking to him a couple of times but he
refused to meet me halfway by understanding the real meaning of
rigorous terms like computation. He has surely spent enough time on
this list to have at least some grasp of, say, what COMP actually
says, but he shows no evidence of it. I can only chalk this up to
laziness. Worse, much of his writing reads like one of these
generative postmodernist essays <http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/>. I am
tempted to give him the Baez treatment, but I don't want to fan the
flames.
Hi,
In Craig's defense I would like to point out that however trolling
or postmodernist you might see his ideas, he is trying hard to think
outside of the box that you guys are gyrating in like the ball in a game
of Pong. How does science advance unless people are willing to
contemplate alternative ideas?
Onward!
Stephen
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