Craig,

The movie The Matrix is essentially about comp. What is it about that
movie's premise that seems impossible to you?

Terren

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 1:18 pm, Joseph Knight <joseph.9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with your point about thinking outside the box, but barring some
>> astronomically improbable stroke of luck, it would be necessary for Craig
>> to *understand what he is criticizing *before he could actually make useful
>> progress away from it. Surely this is not an unreasonable demand?
>
> What is it that you think I don't understand about COMP? The problem
> is that I know for a fact that you don't understand my view, and there
> is nothing anyone has said here which surprises me in any way about
> comp. It's all old hat to me, even if it seems exciting and fresh to
> you, I have been thinking about neurological simulations using
> computation for probably 35 years. I have drawings of multi-sensory
> Walkman designs from when I was 12.
>
> What is the big amazing thing about comp? Arithmetic truth? UDA?
> Substitution level? Self-reference and Turing Machines? I understand
> that you think it makes sense because computers can seem to simulate
> so many things, including computers, but that doesn't impress me
> because I understand that computers are only computers because users
> are using them that way. Otherwise they are just humming boxes.
>
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