On 2/14/2012 2:47 PM, meekerdb wrote:

My understanding is that the properties of the physical world are inferred from our subjective experiences that have a consistency (which Vic Stenger calls point-of-view-invariance) which allows us to model them as being "out there", i.e. objective. Bruno's theory is that this subset of subjective experiences is generated by all possible computations. Hence the material world model is derivative from computation and is not primitive or fundamental. This however may suffer from a white-rabbit problem since it seems likely that many sets of subjective experiences will correspond to models of Alice-in-wonderland worlds.

Incidentally, I think that human-like consciousness can only exist within the context of a physical world model. _So the physical world is not optional, even if it isn't fundamental._
Hi Brent,

    I think that we agree 100% here!



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