On 2/16/2012 12:40 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/16/2012 2:32 PM, meekerdb wrote:
So is intelligence and consciousness, ala having 1p, qualia and all that subjective
experience stuff, the same thing in your mind?
On 2/16/2012 11:09 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
All of this substitution stuff is predicated upon the possibility that the brain
can be emulated by a Universal Turing Machine. It would be helpful if we first
established that a Turing Machine is capable of what we are assuming it do be able to
do. I am pretty well convinced that it cannot based on all that I have studied of QM
and its implications.
This where the paradox of the philosophical zombie arises. It seems pretty certain
that a TM, given the right program, can exhibit intelligence. So can we then deny that
it is conscious based on unobservable quantum entanglements (i.e. those that make its
I doubt that they are the same. I think that there may ways of implementing intelligence,
which can be measured by behavior, that are radically different from human. I speculate
that such an intelligence would be conscious in some sense, but it might be so different
from human that it would hard to infer that it existed.
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