On 2/16/2012 12:40 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/16/2012 2:32 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/16/2012 11:09 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:


All of this substitution stuff is predicated upon the possibility that the brain can be emulated by a Universal Turing Machine. It would be helpful if we first established that a Turing Machine is capable of what we are assuming it do be able to do. I am pretty well convinced that it cannot based on all that I have studied of QM and its implications.

This where the paradox of the philosophical zombie arises. It seems pretty certain that a TM, given the right program, can exhibit intelligence. So can we then deny that it is conscious based on unobservable quantum entanglements (i.e. those that make its computation classical)?

Brent
So is intelligence and consciousness, ala having 1p, qualia and all that subjective experience stuff, the same thing in your mind?

I doubt that they are the same. I think that there may ways of implementing intelligence, which can be measured by behavior, that are radically different from human. I speculate that such an intelligence would be conscious in some sense, but it might be so different from human that it would hard to infer that it existed.

Brent


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