On Mar 14, 4:49 pm, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 14, 10:44 am, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> 
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> > >http://pss.sagepub.com/content/22/5/613.abstract
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> > > Abstract
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> > >        The feeling of being in control of one’s own actions is a
> > > strong subjective experience. However, discoveries in psychology and
> > > neuroscience challenge the validity of this experience and suggest
> > > that free will is just an illusion. This raises a question: What would
> > > happen if people started to disbelieve in free will? Previous research
> > > has shown that low control beliefs affect performance and motivation.
> > > Recently, it has been shown that undermining free-will beliefs
> > > influences social behavior. In the study reported here, we
> > > investigated whether undermining beliefs in free will affects brain
> > > correlates of voluntary motor preparation. Our results showed that the
> > > readiness potential was reduced in individuals induced to disbelieve
> > > in free will. This effect was evident more than 1 s before
> > > participants consciously decided to move, a finding that suggests that
> > > the manipulation influenced intentional actions at preconscious
> > > stages. Our findings indicate that abstract belief systems might have
> > > a much more fundamental effect than previously thought.
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> > > Has anyone posted this yet? Hard to explain what brain correlates are
> > > doing responding to an illusion...
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> > You might be able to show that people who believe in an afterlife are
> > more relaxed when faced with death. There are recognised neurological
> > correlates of relaxation. Would it thereby follow that there is in
> > fact an afterlife?
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> The concept of an afterlife is a perfectly reasonable thing to be able
> to imagine, since we are born and have a life, it is not a problem to
> imagine that we could continue to have a life even after this one
> ends. This is not the case with free will. Hypnotizing a computer to
> think it has 'free will' will not result in any changes in its
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Programmign a computer to believe in FW is a change in its programming

> since for a computer there is no possible difference
> between voluntary action and automatic action.

"voluntary" could mean "controlled determinsitcally by higher brain
centres".

> For us there is a
> tremendously significant and obvious difference.
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> Craig

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