On 25 April 2012 18:59, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> The technical wizardy, if we can achieve it, will have philosophical
> implications - unless like Craig you believe in philosophical zombies.

I agree completely.  I didn't mean to imply that one ruled out the
other, only that in general people tend (understandably) to be rather
more interested in practical deliverables than in the philosophical
subtleties they might imply.  And no, I don't believe in zombies.

David

> On 4/25/2012 7:36 AM, David Nyman wrote:
>
> On 25 April 2012 08:24, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
>> To say that consciousness is an illusion does not make any sense.
>> Everything
>> else can be an illusion, but not consciousness. I think we agree on that.
>
> We do indeed agree on this. The word illusion has become so imprecise
> in this context that it would be better to avoid it.  However, to be
> fair, in this particular case Susan Blackmore seemed not to intend it
> in any clearly eliminative way, but rather in the sense of a mirage -
> i.e. a real something, but a something about whose precise nature and
> cause we may be misled.  Of course, she assumes materialism, and this
> makes it difficult to tie up a number of metaphysical and logical
> loose ends (i.e. the "hard" ones).  But Brent is probably right that
> most people will in the end be more impressed by technical wizardry
> than ultimate philosophical illumination.
>
>
> The technical wizardy, if we can achieve it, will have philosophical
> implications - unless like Craig you believe in philosophical zombies.
>
> Brent
>
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