On 6/1/2012 8:59 AM, John Clark wrote:

    > Believers in 'contra causal free will' suppose that it did not, that my 
'soul' or
    'spirit' initiated the physical process without any determinative physical 

A belief that was enormously popular during the dark ages and led to a thousand years of philosophical dead ends; not surprising really, confusion is inevitable if you insist on trying to make sense out of gibberish.

So you think the existence of soul or spirit is not just false but incomprehensible. I disagree since there are experiments (e.g. healing prayer, NDE tests) that could have provided evidence for these extra-physical phenomena. By their null result they provide evidence against them. But on your view there cannot be evidence for or against because the concept cannot be given any meaning, much less an operational meaning that can be tested.


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