On Jun 3, 12:38 pm, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 Brian Tenneson <tenn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The capacity (which can be defined) of an agent (which can be defined) to > > be able (which can be defined) to choose (which can be defined) > > If it can be done then do so! Explain "choose" in a way that shows it is > not deterministic and also not random, find a way to say that a choice did > not happen for a reason and did not happen for no reason,
How about this. You try moving your arm with an explanation or a reason or with no reason. Did it move? Now just move your arm. Was it a lack of explanation or reason or randomness that was preventing you from FREEly excercising your WILL over your own arm? Please explain how your arm moved in a way that shows it is purely deterministic or purely random, find a way to say that a reason or non- reason alone caused it without the assistance of your choice, and do so in away that is not embarrassingly self contradictory. Do that and you have not lost the argument. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.