On 02 Jul 2012, at 03:36, meekerdb wrote:

That's right. We can discover properties of real things that are not part of their defining description - unlike say the number 17.

That's weird. We might discover one day that 17 has some property we have not yet think of. The number 24 has been discovered to be a key number in the theory of the partition of numbers, and that discovery, although everyone agree with it, remains quite mysterious. In fact 24 has incredible property that we discovered well before defining it.



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