Hi Bruno Marchal 

As I recall, Kant did not use time and space as logical categories of thought 
because time and space are intuited before logic. And Leibniz similarly
did not assign monads to them for similar reasons. Thus monadic
space has no where or when. Just what. In some sense it would then
be eternal, like heaven.  


Roger , [email protected]
8/14/2012 
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Subject: Re: The persistence of intelligence




On 11 Aug 2012, at 13:03, Roger wrote:


Hi Evgenii Rudnyi 

IMHO Intelligence is part of mind, so is platonic and outside of spacetime. It 
was there
before the universe was created, used to create the universe and now guides and 
moves
everything that happens i9n the unverse.  That's a Leibnizian conjecture.


I agree with this, and can explain why space and time appears, even in a stable 
way, in the computations in arithmetic. Arithmetic contains a web of machines' 
dreams, and physical reality is a form of dream sharing made possible by non 
trivial computer science constraints (through self-reference). 


Bruno







Roger , [email protected]
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Time: 2012-08-11, 04:30:32
Subject: Re: Definitions of intelligence possibly useful to computers in AI 
ordescribing life


On 10.08.2012 00:55 Russell Standish said the following:
> The point being that life need not be intelligent. In fact 999.9% of
> life (but whatever measure, numbers, biomass etc) is unintelligent.
>
> The study of artificial life by the same reason need not be a study of
> artitificial intelligence, although because of a biases as an
> intelligent species, a significantly higher fraction of alife research
> is about AI.
>

What does intelligence means in this context that life is unintelligent? 
Let us compare for example a bacterium and a rock. Where there is more 
intelligence?

Evgenii

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