Hi Russell Standish Life doesn't have to be intelligent in the IQ sense, but it still has to know, for example, however dimly, what's good to eat. I still call that dim awareness intelligence. IMHO I believe intelligence of some form extends through creation.
Roger , [email protected] 8/10/2012 ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Russell Standish Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-09, 18:55:39 Subject: Re: Definitions of intelligence possibly useful to computers in AI ordescribing life The point being that life need not be intelligent. In fact 999.9% of life (but whatever measure, numbers, biomass etc) is unintelligent. The study of artificial life by the same reason need not be a study of artitificial intelligence, although because of a biases as an intelligent species, a significantly higher fraction of alife research is about AI. On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 06:47:59AM -0400, Roger wrote: > Hi Russell Standish > > I like this list I have just joined because of the excellent thinkers here, > who are already changing my view of what computers can do in AI. > > The differences in our interpretations of AI and the possibility of computers > simulating life > is due to our different interpretations of what is meant by the word > "intelligence". > My own definition IMHO allows one to uyse the same definition for AI and for > life. > > > There is no generally agree-upon definition of intelligence. My own > definition, > as I had stated, is that intelligence is the ability to make choices of one's > own. > Autonomous choices. Self determinations. This ability is IMHO essential for > life, > for one has to choose which direction to move all on one's own (Aristotle) , > to separate good food from bad food, to separate friend from foe, etc. > > > > > Roger , [email protected] > 8/7/2012 Is life a cause/effect activity ? > If so, what is the cause agent ? > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Russell Standish > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-08-06, 23:17:34 > Subject: Re: scientists simulate an entire organism in software for the > firsttime ever > > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:29:50AM -0700, rclough wrote: > > Perhaps I am wrong, but I have a problem with the concept of artificial > > intelligence and hence artificial life-- at least according to my > > understanding of what intelligence is. > > > > Artificial Life is an independent field to Artificial > Intelligence, so I don't see how you can say that. True there is some > cross-pollination, mostly ALife => AI, but sometimes AI philosophical > issues has some relevance to ALife. > > An example of the difference: it is relatively easy to define and > measure intelligence. Its virtually impossible to do the same for life. > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5182 - Release Date: 08/06/12 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
