In which case, your concept of intelligence is not what AI researchers are studying.
You can't have it both ways :). Cheers On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 08:45:34AM -0400, Roger wrote: > Hi Russell Standish > > Life doesn't have to be intelligent in the IQ sense, but it still > has to know, for example, however dimly, what's good to eat. I still > call that dim awareness intelligence. IMHO I believe intelligence of some > form extends through creation. > > > Roger , rclo...@verizon.net > 8/10/2012 > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Russell Standish > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-08-09, 18:55:39 > Subject: Re: Definitions of intelligence possibly useful to computers in AI > ordescribing life > > > The point being that life need not be intelligent. In fact 999.9% of > life (but whatever measure, numbers, biomass etc) is unintelligent. > > The study of artificial life by the same reason need not be a study of > artitificial intelligence, although because of a biases as an > intelligent species, a significantly higher fraction of alife research > is about AI. > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 06:47:59AM -0400, Roger wrote: > > Hi Russell Standish > > > > I like this list I have just joined because of the excellent thinkers here, > > who are already changing my view of what computers can do in AI. > > > > The differences in our interpretations of AI and the possibility of > > computers simulating life > > is due to our different interpretations of what is meant by the word > > "intelligence". > > My own definition IMHO allows one to uyse the same definition for AI and > > for life. > > > > > > There is no generally agree-upon definition of intelligence. My own > > definition, > > as I had stated, is that intelligence is the ability to make choices of > > one's own. > > Autonomous choices. Self determinations. This ability is IMHO essential for > > life, > > for one has to choose which direction to move all on one's own (Aristotle) > > , > > to separate good food from bad food, to separate friend from foe, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Roger , rclo...@verizon.net > > 8/7/2012 Is life a cause/effect activity ? > > If so, what is the cause agent ? > > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > > From: Russell Standish > > Receiver: everything-list > > Time: 2012-08-06, 23:17:34 > > Subject: Re: scientists simulate an entire organism in software for the > > firsttime ever > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:29:50AM -0700, rclough wrote: > > > Perhaps I am wrong, but I have a problem with the concept of artificial > > > intelligence and hence artificial life-- at least according to my > > > understanding of what intelligence is. > > > > > > > Artificial Life is an independent field to Artificial > > Intelligence, so I don't see how you can say that. True there is some > > cross-pollination, mostly ALife => AI, but sometimes AI philosophical > > issues has some relevance to ALife. > > > > An example of the difference: it is relatively easy to define and > > measure intelligence. 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