Hi Stephen P. King 

" Leibniz propounds a pluralistic metaphysical idealism by reducing the reality 
of the universe to 
centres of force, which are all ultimately spiritual in their nature. Every 
centre of force is a substance, 
an individual, and is different from other centres of force. Such centres of 
force, Leibniz calls monads. 
These forces are unextended, not subject to division in space. None, excepting, 
of course, God, can 
destroy these monads, and so they are considered to be immortal in essence. 
Though quantitatively, the monads a.."

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/23/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Hi Roger,

    The unextended aspect of monads is just an expression of the fact that 
within the monadology, it is not embedded in a space and thus has no measurable 
size.WE cannot think of monads as we think of atoms in a void. The idea is that 
we can recover the concept of an external space as a collection of possible 
locations purely in terms of internal states.


On 8/23/2012 6:57 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King 

Monads are inextended, so can have no spatial presence.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/23/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Dear Roger,

    You are being inconsistent to the very definition of a monad. They do not 
have an "outside" that could ever been seen from a point of view and thus to 
think of them as if they do, such as the concept of a space full of them (which 
implies mutual displacement) if to think of them as atoms that are exclusively 
"outside view" defined. Within the Monadology all concepts that imply an 
"outside view" are strictly defined in terms of appearances from the inside.


On 8/22/2012 9:09 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:

Roger, 


Space is not empty. It is full of monads at 10^90/cc.
These are the building blocks of space in integration-information theory.
Richard


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi Richard Ruquist 
 
You need to study the monadology. And the history of modern physics.
 
Space does not physically exist for L (as for us) because it is empty, as the 
Milligan-whatshisname 
experiment proved a century ago. The notion of an ether is a fantasy. It 
doesn't exist.
Photons just go from A to B through a quantum or mathematical wavefield, not an 
actual one.
 
 
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Roger, " monads are by definition nonlocal " does not mean that " space does 
not exist". Your logic is faulty. 
Richard 



On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi benjayk 
In monadic theory,?ince space does not exist, monads are by definition 
nonlocal, thus all minds in a sense are one
and can commune with one another as well as with God (the mind behind the 
supreme monad). 
The clarity of intercommunication will of course depend, of course, on the 
sensitivity of the monads, their intelligence,
and how "near" (resonant) their partners are, as well as other factors?uch as 
whether or not its
a clear?onadic weather day.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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meekerdb wrote:
> 
> "This sentence cannot be confirmed to be true by a human being."
> 
> The Computer
> 

He might be right in saying that (See my response to Saibal).
But it can't confirm it as well (how could it, since we as humans can't
confirm it and what he knows about us derives from what we program into
it?). So still, it is less capable than a human.
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