That's true, it is not a contradiction. However, from a Bayesian
perspective one must favor the alternative that gives one's a
existence a non-zero measure.

Terren

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 8/29/2012 7:40 PM, Terren Suydam wrote:
>>
>> hmmm, my interpretation is that in platonia, all computations, all the
>> potential infinities of computations, have the same ontological
>> status. Meaning, there's nothing meaningful that can be said with
>> regard to any particular state of the UD - one can imagine that all
>> computations have been performed in a timeless way. If so, it follows
>> that the state that corresponds to my mind at this moment has an
>> infinite number of instantiations in the UD (regardless of some
>> arbitrary "current" state of the UD). In fact this is the only way I
>> can make sense of the reversal, where physics emerges from "the
>> infinite computations going through my state".  Otherwise, I think the
>> physics that emerges would depend in a contigent way on the
>> particulars of how the UD unfolds.
>>
>> Whether the infinities involved with my current state are of the same
>> ordinality as the infinitie of all computations, I'm not sure. But I
>> think if it was a "lesser" infinity, so that the probability of my
>> state being instantiated did approach zero in the limit, then my
>> interpretation above would imply that the probability of my existence
>> is actually zero. Which is a contradiction.
>
>
> You may be right.  I we think of the UD as existing in Platonia, then we
> might as well think of it's computations as completed.
>
> I don't think that your probability having measure zero implies you can't
> exist.  The number pi has zero measure on the real line, but it still
> exists.
>
> Brent
>
>
>>
>> Terren
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:41 PM, meekerdb<meeke...@verizon.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>> But there are no infinities at any give state - only potential
>>> infinities.
>>> Of course that also implies that "you" are never complete, since at any
>>> given state in the UD there still remain infinitely many computations
>>> that
>>> will, in later steps, go through the states instantiating "you".
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/29/2012 9:04 AM, Terren Suydam wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It may not even be zero in the limit, since there's an infinity of
>>>> computations that generate my state. I suppose it comes down to the
>>>> ordinality of the infinities involved.
>>>>
>>>> Terren
>>>>
>>>>> Not zero, only zero in the limit of completing the infinite
>>>>> computations.
>>>>> So
>>>>> at any stage short the infinite completion the probability of "you" is
>>>>> very
>>>>> small, but non-zero.  But we already knew that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brent
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