Hi Stephen P. King There no doubt are similarities, but IMHO dual-aspect is conceptually headless. Guillotined. Unable to explain Cs and mind. Or if I may, God, for that matter. Hence materialists are mostlhy atheists.
The absolutely critical thing missing from dual-aspect monism is government: A president, congress, supreme court, all of that good stuff. And a constitution. Roger Clough, [email protected] 8/31/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-31, 08:34:20 Subject: Re: Living in a subjective universe vs having a dual aspect mind On 8/31/2012 8:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King Leibniz's Idealism (LI) differs from dual-aspect monism (DAM) in that while both have corresponding domains of brain and mind, as I understand it, DAM is an overlay of brain and mind. Hi Roger, LI is commesurate with DAM, IMHO. The distinction tht I draw is that the DAM that I am considering does not hide the details of interaction between monads. LI puts all of the explanation into a God given Pre-Established Harmony", what I am considering does not as it seeks to explicitly show an explanation of the interactions between minds (as bisimulations). The PEH of LI and Pratt's DAM's residuation via bisimulation become identical in the ultimate limit. But LI feautures mind in Ideal space in the form of monads, each of which is like a homunculus, so that the Leibniz mind functionally includes the whole human-- heart, mind, soul, and body- as a whole. Thus intellect and feeling and body are not separated by barriers, but can act wholistically. The textbook example is that in LI mind can (although indirectly) influence body and body similarly the mind, with no logical problems such as arose from Descartes' dualism of mind and body. Dual aspect monism, as did descartes, simply ignores the subvstance dualism of mind and body as irrelevant to the progress of neuroscience. DAM defines "substance" as a set of "almost exact"endomorphisms between monads, nothing more. This issue of cartesiabn dualism is what caused L to formulate his monadic metaphysics. The monadic structure and the homunculus substructure create an entirely different picture of how mind operates and what it can do (nonlocality, clairvoyance, partial and individual clarity of communion with other minds and God, how intellect can cause dominion of one monad over another, the governmebnt of the universe and mind by God, etc. for example) Sure! We see evidence of how this might be explained in quantum pseudo-telepathy. And what self is, and how it participates in perception and action. Pratt and the other theorists afre completely unawafre of this fact that the universe is subjective. You might wish to not be so sure, but that is your choice to make. :-) Roger Clough, [email protected] 8/31/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-30, 18:12:16 Subject: Re: CTMU On 8/30/2012 2:24 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > I? reading pratt theory and I remembered the CTMU, from Cristopher > Langan , the mand with higuest CI measured so far, which present a > theory of everything which includes the mind: > > http://www.ctmu.net/ > > Anyone had notice previously about it?. I read it time ago and at > least it is interesting. Hi Alberto, Oh my! "...SCSPL reality embodies a dual-aspect monism..." Sound familiar? Nice to see that many others are independently discovering the same idea. -- Onward! Stephen -- Onward! Stephen http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
