Hi John Clark 

OK.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/4/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him 
so that everything could function."
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Time: 2012-09-03, 13:38:01
Subject: Re: There is no such thing as cause and effect


On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:


> I don't hold to Popper's criterion. There's got to be a lot of things that 
> are not falsifiable.


Popper didn't say everything is falsifiable, he said if it's not falsifiable 
then it's pointless to subject your valuable brain cells to the ware and tear 
of thinking about them because you're never going to make any progress, none 
zero goose egg. Your time could be better spent thinking about other things, 
falsifiable things, because those you just might be able to figure out; no 
guarantee but at least you have a chance. 


> For example, you drop an apple and gravity pulls it down. You can't turn off 
> the gravity to falsify it


Yes you can, get in a rocket and travel far from the center of the earth, or 
just get in a elevator and cut the cable. 


> Actually, Hume discussed cause and effect to some great length. He said [blah 
> blah]. Leibniz also believed as Hume did. 


These philosophers died several centuries before the discovery of Relativity, 
Quantum Mechanics, the electromagnetic theory of light and even thermodynamics 
and a understanding of what energy and entropy are. They knew nothing about 
chemistry or atoms and couldn't tell a electron from Electra,? they didn't know 
about the big bang or that the universe was expanding much less accelerating, 
in fact the very concept of acceleration would have been considered cutting 
edge science for them. The idea that these ancients had anything useful to say 
to a modern physicist about cause and effect or anything else is utterly 
ridiculous. 

?ohn K Clark? ? 



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