On 9/4/2012 10:07 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/5/2012 12:38 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/4/2012 8:59 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Notice that both the duplication and the teleportation, as discussed, assume that
the information content is exactly copyable.
Not exactly. Only sufficiently accurately to maintain your consciousness.
If the copy is not exact then functional equivalence is not exact either and this is
fatal for the model.
Then you should mourn the Stephen P. King of and hour ago. He's been fatally
This is not qubits that are involved... The point here is that this comp model assume
that Reality is, at is ground level, classical.
It doesn't assume that. A fully quantum computation can be performed on a classical,
i.e. Turing, computer. Bruno would just say it just takes a lower level of substitution.
Yes, a classical computer can emulate a finite quantum computation given sufficient
resources. This is not the same thing as the EPR effect that I am considering. The idea
that I am considering is more like this:
Consider the visible physical universe. We know from observation that not only is it
open on one end and that it's expansion is accelerating. People want to put this off on
some "Dark Energy". I think that it is something else, driving it. Consider a classical
computer that needs to emulate a quantum computation. It has to have even increasing
resources to keep up with the QC if the QC is modeling an expanding universe. It we take
Bruno's AR literally, where are these resources coming from?
They are computations. They exist in Platonia. He's trying to explain matter, so he can't
very well assume material resources. The world is made out of arithmetic, an infinite
Let's turn the tables and make Reality Quantum in its essence. The classical
computation may just be something that the QC is running.
There's not difference as computations.
What is most interesting is that the QC can run an arbitrary number of classical
computations, all at the same time. The CC can only barely compute the emulation of a
You are talking about QC and CC as though they were material computers with finite
resources. Once you've assumed material resources you've lost any non-circular
possibility of explaining them.
What if we have an infinite and eternal QC running infinitely many finite CCs and each
of these CC's is trying to emulate a single QC. Map this idea out and look at the nice
self-referential loop that this defines!
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