On 13 Sep 2012, at 17:44, Roger Clough wrote:

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Hi everything-listSince human thought and perception consists of both a logicalquantitative or objectivecomponent as well as a feelings-spiritual qualitative or subjectivecomponents,would it make any sense to do comp using complex numbers, where the real part is the objective part of the mental the imaginary part is the subjective part of the mental

This is pleasant but far stretched.

`You might appreciate the imaginary time (t' = it) making relativity`

`euclidian (instead of Minkowskian), but the relation between subject`

`and physical time is too much speculative for me, especially that I am`

`currently doubting the old link between consciousness and subjective`

`time.`

`Comp cannot use infinite objects, but you can do it with rational`

`complex numbers, or rational octonions, it is most plausibly as much`

`Turing universal. But real numbers are not, so an embedding of a`

`number structure in another does not necessarily preserve the Turing`

`universality.`

? Isn't there an intuitive mathematics ?

`We can argue that intuitionist mathematics, and constructive`

`mathematics, or the abandon of the third excluded middle lead to a`

`more intuitive mathematics. It is the logic and math of a self which`

`extends itself, as opposed to the self open to meet the non`

`constructive "other", when you free the third excluded middle. But in`

`arithmetic that chnages nothing, as the intuitionist can translate the`

`"other" by the use of the double negation.`

`In comp, that intuitive solipsist first person is given by the Bp & p`

`variants of GĂ¶del's Bp.`

`You should (aslo) study more logic before restructing math to the`

`quantitative. I doubt this already for topology, and certainly for`

`logic and model theory. It is a confusion of the syntax and its`

`possible interpretations, a process already studied in logic.`

Bruno

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