On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Stephen P. King <[email protected]>wrote:

>   I contend that universality is the independence of computations to any
> particular machine but there must be at least one physical system that can
> implement a given computation for that computation to be knowable. This is
> just a accessibility question, in the Kripke sense of accessible 
> worlds<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility_relation>
> .
>
>
Stephen,

Could you provide a definition of what you mean by 'physical system'?

Do you think it is possible, even in theory, for entities to distinguish
whether they are in a physical system or a mathematical one?  If so, what
difference would they test to make that distinction?

Thanks,

Jason

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