Jesus did not do away with any OT laws. He said so explicitly in the Sermon on the Mount.
Matthew 5:  "Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.  For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.  Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Roger, are you one of the least? Richard On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi John Clark > > 1)Intelligence ? I don't think the word was available back then (Bible days). > Russell also hadn't a clue (he admitted) as to the meaning of pragmatism. > On the other hand, Proverbs says, "Fear of God is beginning of > wisdom (or knowledge)." > > 2) To understand the Bible you have to read it as a little child, > not a shark. > > 3) Those slaughter statements are mostly based on the old jewish > laws in leviticus and numbers. Jesus did away with them. > But God did order a few massacres. The forgiveness of Jesus > also did away with the need for them. > > The Old Testament is the problem. > The New Testament is the solution. > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net > 9/15/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: John Clark > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-09-14, 15:32:46 > Subject: Re: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > > >> You're a slow learner. > > Maybe, but I'm smarter than the people in the Bible. As Bertrand Russell said > "So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of > intelligence." > > >> Bible stories are generally based on true happenings. > > > Do you believe that the stories in Mother Goose are generally based on true > happenings too? I know there are no reasons to believe either one but faith > don't need no education, or reasons. > > > >> Science deals with facts, religion deals with values. > > > Values? One of the best ways to become a atheist is to actually read the > Bible, so let's go directly to the source and read some quotations from the > Bible and see some of those wonderful values that it teaches: > > Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the Lord against the > sun. > Numbers 25:4 > > The LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of > man, and the firstborn of beast. > Exodus 13:15 > > Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers. > Isaiah 14:21 > > And the priest shall dip his finger in some of the blood, and sprinkle it > seven times before the LORD. > Leviticus 4:17 > > And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters > shall ye eat. > Leviticus 26:29 > > Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the > sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle > thereof, with the edge of the sword. > Deuteronomy 13:15 > > Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all > that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and > suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.? > 1 Samuel 15:2-3 > > Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray > you, bring them out unto you, an do ye to them as is good in your eyes. > Genesis 19:8 > > And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her > .... Thou shalt go in unto her. Deuteronomy 21:11-13 > > The LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above > all people that are upon the face of the earth. > Deuteronomy 7:6 > > I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children. > Leviticus 26:22 > > And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their > daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. > Jeremiah 19:9 > > For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to > death. > Leviticus 20:9 > > The Lord is a man of War. > Exodus 15:3 > > Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the > stones.? > Psalms 137:9 > > People lamented because the Lord had smitten many people in a great slaughter. > 1Samuel 6:19 > > Smite through the loins of them that rise against him...that they rise not > again. > Deuteronomy 33:11 > > And thou shalt eat the fruit of? thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of > thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee. > Deuteronomy 28:53 > > ? 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