Hi Stephen P. King Forgive me if I bring up Leibniz again, but to my mind he gives the most thorough descriptions as to how the world works. And so logical that you can figure out many things on your own.
Monads are capsules of objects of the mind consisting of mental substances if they have only 1 part, and I suggest that composite substances must be composite monads Being nonextended, and also since there is no such thing as space, they have no locations. So they are nonlocal. They are mental. And they are alive. Each monad has either a soul (animals and vegetables), a spirit (man), or, like rocks is a "bare naked monad" and has what I would call a dark, drowsy soul. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/17/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-16, 11:45:19 Subject: Re: Simple proof that our intelligence transcends that of computers On 9/16/2012 8:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Stephen P. King > > Leibniz was not a solipsist, since he took it for > granted that the world out there was actually there. > If a tree fell in a forest and nobody heard it, it still > would have fallen. > > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net > 9/16/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > > Dear Roger, I agree with you, but if you read L's writings you will find that he depended on God to act as a "universal observer" that could distinguish all of the aspects of the world *and* other monads from each other *and* see the relationships between them. This is the essence of the idea of a pre-established harmony. For God, all things are given but once and there is no need to "compute the relations" (which is an infinite NP-Hard computation!). I claim that God *is* the computation of all things and all the things as well. Bruno represents this in his work as a Universal Dovetailing of all possible computations. But we fail if we do not understand that from our finite and incomplete view that the PEH is simply not accessible. We must consume resources and do our version of the universal computation ourselves to gain the knowledge. We cannot just "download" the results from God's "Cloud". You might note that downloading itself is a computation that requires resources to be consumed! Knowledge is never free. I claim that bisimulation is interaction and that our local computations, implicit in our observations of the world around us, is a reflection of the eternal PEH of God. Plato saw this and sought to explain it with the allegory of the Cave and the Divided Line. Silly humans ignore the requirements of local reality and imagine that they can just download God's view and not have to do the hard work for themselves. Sorry, there is no such thing as a free lunch! -- Onward! Stephen http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.