Hi Jason Resch Love means to love somebody else, other than yourself. To do that, you must trust that person. You will partly submit your will to them, or at least not dominate them. You will want to give things to that person. So love, trusting, submission and giving are all tangled together somewhere deep in your psyche. You cannot feel one without the others.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/20/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Jason Resch Receiver: firstname.lastname@example.org Time: 2012-09-19, 20:41:03 Subject: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. On Sep 19, 2012, at 4:19 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 9/19/2012 2:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:27:13 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist Obeying the commandments will not get you into heaven, only believing in Christ's sacrifice for us will do that. What kind of a sacrifice is that? "I'm going to do you the biggest favor you can imagine, but if you don't believe in it, then my favor is worthless and makes anything good that you have ever done in your life a complete waste of time". If I were Satan, I would write the Bible exactly as it is, full of horrific promises and threats that can be interpreted in many ways. It's pretty much like dropping candy colored hand grenades onto a school playground. The grenades would say "if anyone tries to take this away from you, then they deserve whatever happens to them". But I'm curious; as a member of the EVERYTHING-list, don't you believe that there's a world where the Bible is essentially accurate (modulo direct contradictions)? Well no one can hold on to a soul forever, at all times there is a chance you will escape their grip and find yourself elsewhere. Also, the concept of a super intelligent entity torturing someone may be almost contradictory, for they may realize the identity of all minds, and therefore they would be torturing themselves. Self contradictions aside, all religions are true with some relative probability. That is to say, in this world, some fractions of the explanations for it's existence is because a Christian god created it, in another fraction it is because brahma (a Hindu god) is dreaming it, and so on. Jason Brent "Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless exactness... It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light and leading by contrast" --- Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.