Hi Bruno Marchal Perhaps mind, like Maxwell's Demon, "makes sense of" raw experience. Finds structure or whatever. That's called Secondness.
Roger Clough, [email protected] 10/6/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-05, 11:34:19 Subject: Re: Subjectivity is no longer a dirty word! A nice video discussingthedual aspect theory On 05 Oct 2012, at 13:33, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Richard Ruquist > > I appreciate your suggestion, but I am already convinced, > and have other sources besides that. > > What I'm looking for is a book which gives the central > mechanism of abiogenesis, the production of living > matter from nonliving matter. If indded there is > such a thing. Mind emerges from numbers (or from the combinators, etc.). Matter emerge from mind. Comp explains completely why it looks the contrary locally. Comp might be false, but as matter emerges from mind in a precise way, comp ("I survive through machine substitution at some level") is made refutable. Bruno > > > Roger Clough, [email protected] > 10/5/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-10-05, 07:15:41 > Subject: Re: Subjectivity is no longer a dirty word! A nice video > discussingthe dual aspect theory > > > Along the theme of a dual-aspect theory of reality, > I recommend the book > "Mind and Cosmos:Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of > Nature Is Almost Certainly False" by Nagel, Thomas. > It actually has little to do with Darwin but rather discusses how > consciousness, cognition, etc. cannot not be explained by materialism. > Richard > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >> Hi Stephen P. King >> >> Many thanks, Stephan ! >> >> I should have known it before, but >> double-aspect and/or dual-aspect theories >> of mind aren't afraid of using the word >> "subjectivity". >> >> Now all they have to do is find out >> who or what is the subjectr of subjectivity ! >> >> >> >> >> Roger Clough, [email protected] >> 10/5/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Stephen P. King >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-10-04, 09:14:20 >> Subject: A nice video discussing the dual aspect theory >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ3Z-Y99wW0 >> >> -- >> Onward! >> >> Stephen >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything- >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything- >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >> . >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en > . > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
