Hi Craig Weinberg 

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
10/9/2012 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen


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From: Craig Weinberg 
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Time: 2012-10-08, 12:02:27
Subject: Conjoined Twins


Have a look at the first few minutes of this show with conjoined twins Abby and 
Brittany:

http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/abby-and-brittany/videos/big-moves.htm

You can see that although they do not share the same brain they clearly share 
aspects of the same mind. They often speak in unison but they can disagree with 
each other. This can be interpreted to mean that they are similar machines and 
therefore are able to generate the same functions simultaneously, but then how 
can they voluntarily disagree? To me, this shows how fundamentally different 
subjectivity and will is from computation, information, or even physics. Even 
though I think subjectivity is physical, it's because physics is subjective, 
and the way that happens is via intention through time, rather than extension 
across space. The words they say are not being transmitted from inside one 
skull to another, even though Brittany seems to be echoing Abby in the sense 
that she is in a more subservient role in expressing what they are saying, the 
echo is not meaningfully delayed - she is not listening to Abby's words with 
her ears and then imitating her, she is feeling the meaning of what is being 
said at nearly the same time.

I think that Bruno would say that this illustrates the nonlocality of 
arithmetic as each person is a universal machine who is processing similar data 
with similar mechanisms, but I see real-time Quorum Mechanics. They are 
speaking more or less 'in concert'. Were they machines, I would expect that 
they could get out of synch. One could just start repeating the other five 
seconds later, or they could lapse into an infinite regress of echoing. Surely 
the circuitry of such a rare instrument would not and could not evolve rock 
solid error corrective anticipation for this.

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