On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:32:19 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > The subjective aspect (Firstness), some of which apparently each twin has, > is > not shareable, only descriptions of it (Thirdness) are shareable. >
Maybe not in these twins, but in these other, brain conjoined twins, Firstness IS SHARED. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDsXa5nNbI (start at 5:50 if you want to skip the human interest stuff) Proof. Craig > Firstness. > What is shareable is Thirdness. What cannot be shared is Firstness. > Thirdness is the description of > > Roger Clough, [email protected] <javascript:> > 10/9/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Craig Weinberg > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-10-08, 12:02:27 > Subject: Conjoined Twins > > > Have a look at the first few minutes of this show with conjoined twins Abby > and Brittany: > > > http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/abby-and-brittany/videos/big-moves.htm > > You can see that although they do not share the same brain they clearly share > aspects of the same mind. They often speak in unison but they can disagree > with each other. This can be interpreted to mean that they are similar > machines and therefore are able to generate the same functions > simultaneously, but then how can they voluntarily disagree? To me, this shows > how fundamentally different subjectivity and will is from computation, > information, or even physics. Even though I think subjectivity is physical, > it's because physics is subjective, and the way that happens is via intention > through time, rather than extension across space. The words they say are not > being transmitted from inside one skull to another, even though Brittany > seems to be echoing Abby in the sense that she is in a more subservient role > in expressing what they are saying, the echo is not meaningfully delayed - > she is not listening to Abby's words with her ears and then imitating her, > she is feeling the meaning of what is being said at nearly the same time. > > > I think that Bruno would say that this illustrates the nonlocality of > arithmetic as each person is a universal machine who is processing similar > data with similar mechanisms, but I see real-time Quorum Mechanics. They are > speaking more or less 'in concert'. Were they machines, I would expect that > they could get out of synch. One could just start repeating the other five > seconds later, or they could lapse into an infinite regress of echoing. > Surely the circuitry of such a rare instrument would not and could not evolve > rock solid error corrective anticipation for this. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/TGERtHlMkLIJ. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]<javascript:>. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/ssA5349ARf8J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
