Hi Bruno Marchal OK, let's suppose that the numbers can be considered as ideas in the mind of the One or the Supreme monad, which is the monad for the universe. Then the universe would be the corporeal body. Or something like that.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/29/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-29, 11:54:20 Subject: Re: A mirror of the universe. On 28 Oct 2012, at 23:31, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Bruno Marchal > > I still haven't sorted the issue of numbers out. > I suppose I ought to do some research in my Leibniz books. That's OK, but eventually you have to look inward, and see what you think. the solution is in your head, even if Leibniz can help you. > > Aside from that, monads have to be attached to corporeal bodies, Intensional numbers needs some universal numbers around to make sense. basically the extensional number is the corporeal bodies. They just take the usual shape, when the u number emerges from all computations, apparently. > and numbers aren't like that. They are. You can say that a game of life pattern does not look like a number too, but this is just an appearance. > I find the following unsatisfactory, > but since numbers are like ideas, they can be > in the minds of individual homunculi in individual monads, > but that doesn't sound satisfactoriy to me. > Not universakl enough. I don't get your point. I think you should study the theory of universal machine. I explain a bit of this on the FOAR list. > > My best guess for now is that the supreme monad (the One) undoubtedly > somehow possesses the numbers. The supreme monad might be played by the universal number, but is not the one (God, arithmetical truth). Universal numbers are more the Plotinus' man. They are sigma_1 complete. God, is sigma_i complete for all i. > > Hurricane coming. Be careful, Bruno > > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net > 10/28/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Bruno Marchal > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-10-27, 09:31:59 > Subject: Re: A mirror of the universe. > > > On 26 Oct 2012, at 14:44, Roger Clough wrote: > >>> >> Dear Bruno and Alberto, >> >> I agree some what with both of you. As to the idea of a "genetic >> algorithm can isolate anticipative programs", I think that >> anticipation >> is the analogue of inertia for computations, as Mach saw inertia. It >> is >> a relation between any one and the class of computations that it >> belongs >> to such that any incomplete string has a completion in the >> collections >> of others like it. This is like an error correction or compression >> mechanism. >> >> -- >> Onward! >> >> Stephen >> >> ROGER: For what it's worth--- like Mach's inertia, each monad >> mirrors the rest of the universe. > > In arithmetic, each universal numbers mirrors all other universal > numbers. The tiny Turing universal part of arithmetical truth is > already a dynamical Indra Net. > > Your monad really looks like the (universal) intensional numbers. > > Bruno > > >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything- >> l...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything- >> l...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >> . >> > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en > . > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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